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Furthermore, atheist apologists commonly attempt to deny/minimize the role of atheism/atheists when it comes to atheism and mass murder as if no true atheist could be involved in such behavior (See: [[Atheism and the no true Scotsman fallacy]]).<ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmrRC6zD4Zk Atheists Dodge Their History of Atrocities]</ref><ref>[https://creation.com/atheism Atheism]</ref><ref>[http://voxday.blogspot.com/2011/04/mailvox-no-true-atheist-defense.html Mailvox: the "No True Atheist" defense]</ref>  

Furthermore, atheist apologists commonly attempt to deny/minimize the role of atheism/atheists when it comes to atheism and mass murder as if no true atheist could be involved in such behavior (See: [[Atheism and the no true Scotsman fallacy]]).<ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmrRC6zD4Zk Atheists Dodge Their History of Atrocities]</ref><ref>[https://creation.com/atheism Atheism]</ref><ref>[http://voxday.blogspot.com/2011/04/mailvox-no-true-atheist-defense.html Mailvox: the "No True Atheist" defense]</ref>  

In addition, there is a large list of atheist moral failures which the atheist community has not addressed (see: [[Atheist population and immorality]]).   

In addition, althought many atheists claim that they can be [[good without God]], there is a large list of atheist moral failures which the atheist community has not addressed (see: [[Atheist population and immorality]]).   

Also, atheism provides no basis for objective moral standards (see: [[Atheism and morality]]).<ref>

Also, atheism provides no basis for objective moral standards (see: [[Atheism and morality]]).<ref>