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:Maybe this is a fight for the Turks, not Americans. The values of the U.S. founding fathers are superior to those of Erdogan, but that doesn't mean we should force those values on others. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 19:49, 12 October 2019 (EDT)
:Maybe this is a fight for the Turks, not Americans. The values of the U.S. founding fathers are superior to those of Erdogan, but that doesn't mean we should force those values on others. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 19:49, 12 October 2019 (EDT)
::Inviting Erdogan while U.S. troops have to withdraw under less than honorable conditions is a kowtow to him. Americans had to withdraw from Vietnam, too, but Nixon wouldn't have invited Ho-Chi-Minh to Washington. And Erdogan and his entourage did behave badly last time, there is zero reason to invite him a second time. It would be a nightmare for the conservatives and for America and for the West as a whole. --[[User:James2|James2]] ([[User talk:James2|talk]]) 16:34, 14 October 2019 (EDT)