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About the same level of violence as Detroit, my opinion of course.--[[User:Jpatt|jp]] 14:14, 10 May 2007 (EDT)

About the same level of violence as Detroit, my opinion of course.--[[User:Jpatt|jp]] 14:14, 10 May 2007 (EDT)

*Yes, because there are car bombs and IEDs in Detroit, and coordinated suicide bombings, and death squads and helicopter gunships; I saw them last time I was there. The 'civil war,' or whatever euphemism you wish to apply, is referring to the conflict between the minority Sunnis, who have been in power until recently, and the majority Shiites, who have been living under the thumb of said Sunni majority. Constant fighting between Shiites and Sunnis, death squad activities on both sides, bitter rivalry... hmmm.... sounds like there are some doubleplus ungood bellyfeelings in Iraq. These two sides will never back down, the Sunnis because they're used to power and privilege (and rightly fear being exterminated by the Shiites should they wrest power) and the Shiites because they see the Sunnis as oppressors, and associate them with the Baath regime. The fighting between the two groups could very well determine which sect runs the government (I'd bet on the Shiites). Two large, nationwide groups of Iraqis fighting each other... nope, not a civil war at all. When those evil liberals use the phrase 'civil war,' they are referring to the fact that at present, many American soldiers are caught trying to end violence between the two warring factions, rather than accomplishing something or hunting down al-Qaeda, a much better use of time.

*Yes, because there are car bombs and IEDs in Detroit, and coordinated suicide bombings, and death squads and helicopter gunships; I saw them last time I was there. The 'civil war,' or whatever euphemism you wish to apply, is referring to the conflict between the minority Sunnis, who have been in power until recently, and the majority Shiites, who have been living under the thumb of said Sunni majority. Constant fighting between Shiites and Sunnis, death squad activities on both sides, bitter rivalry... hmmm.... sounds like there are some doubleplus ungood bellyfeelings in Iraq. These two sides will never back down, the Sunnis because they're used to power and privilege (and rightly fear being exterminated by the Shiites should they wrest power) and the Shiites because they see the Sunnis as oppressors, and associate them with the Baath regime. The fighting between the two groups could very well determine which sect runs the government (I'd bet on the Shiites). Two large, nationwide groups of Iraqis fighting each other... nope, not a civil war at all. When those evil liberals use the phrase 'civil war,' they are referring to the fact that at present, many American soldiers are caught trying to end violence between the two warring factions, rather than accomplishing something or hunting down al-Qaeda, a much better use of time. -[[User:Fuzzy901|Fuzzy901]] 15:42, 13 May 2007 (EDT)