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::''I will bring to nothing the understanding of the wise'' - you can't get into the kingdom be reasoned argument or scholarship. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|De Plorabus Unum]]</sup> 18:44, 5 November 2019 (EST)
::''I will bring to nothing the understanding of the wise'' - you can't get into the kingdom be reasoned argument or scholarship. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|De Plorabus Unum]]</sup> 18:44, 5 November 2019 (EST)
:::I agree. Would you please revise it? --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 19:39, 5 November 2019 (EST)
:::I agree. Would you please revise it? --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 19:39, 5 November 2019 (EST)
::::I'm going to need some help in structuring it. Right now it says little or nothing of [[atonement]], [[redemption]], [[expiration]], [[substitution]], [[propitiation]], [[reconciliation]], [[justification]], [[regeneration]], [[repentance]], [[faith]], [[adoption]], or [[assurance]]. I'm not particularly enamored to the idea of creating two major separate Protestant and Catholic major sections. I'd rather like to make a simple scriptural presentation of salvation, then with various interpretations (such as an emphasis on baptism being equivalent or the key to salvation). But I'm not entirely certain ''how'' to do that. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|De Plorabus Unum]]</sup> 20:23, 5 November 2019 (EST)