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:::I was told by someone fairly knowledgeable about this topic of homosexuality that the research shows the more society is against homosexuality, the less there is of it. This makes sense because even Kinsey admitted that homosexuality among Orthodox Jews is rare. And there was a culture in New Guinea where they didn't even know homosexuality existed until the Western missionaries told them about homosexuality. From Conservapedia's [[Religious Upbringing and Culture Affects Rates of Homosexuality]] article: "However, in another group of Dani who were genetically related, homosexuality was totally unknown. Missionaries report that when they were translating the Bible into Dani for this group, their tribal assistants, who knew their own culture intimately, were nonplused by references to homosexuality in Romans 1; they did not understand the concept."

:::I was told by someone fairly knowledgeable about this topic of homosexuality that the research shows the more society is against homosexuality, the less there is of it. This makes sense because even Kinsey admitted that homosexuality among Orthodox Jews is rare. And there was a culture in New Guinea where they didn't even know homosexuality existed until the Western missionaries told them about homosexuality. From Conservapedia's [[Religious Upbringing and Culture Affects Rates of Homosexuality]] article: "However, in another group of Dani who were genetically related, homosexuality was totally unknown. Missionaries report that when they were translating the Bible into Dani for this group, their tribal assistants, who knew their own culture intimately, were nonplused by references to homosexuality in Romans 1; they did not understand the concept."

:::And the fruit of a society being more tolerant of homosexuality is not good (Diseases, gender imbalances in terms of marriageable people, etc. ). And in the Western World and in Asian developed countries, the fertility rates is below replacement levels and homosexuality is certainly not helping this problem. Graying populations is going to create big problems in terms of caring for the aged, pension plans, societies being less productive, Muslim terrorism if countries open the floodgates of Muslim immigration due to labor shortages, etc).  

:::And the fruit of a society being more tolerant of homosexuality is not good (Diseases, gender imbalances in terms of marriageable people, etc. ). And in the Western World and in Asian developed countries, the fertility rates is below replacement levels and homosexuality is certainly not helping this problem. Graying populations is going to create big problems in terms of caring for the aged, pension plans, societies being less productive, Muslim terrorism if countries open the floodgates of Muslim immigration due to labor shortages, etc.  

:::So it is very hard to call decriminalization an achievement. About the only thing you can say is that it frees up police resources.  

:::So it is very hard to call decriminalization an achievement. About the only thing you can say is that it frees up police resources.  

:::Personally, since the Bible says that he gives men/women over to a depraved mind who fail to acknowledge Him, you can regard homosexuality as a quasi type of punishment. To explain what I mean, here is what a pastor said, "From the foregoing man has fallen into a debased state, and God's yearning  is to teach, guide and bestow his abundant mercy so that he is reconciled back to Him, by seeing and coming into His covenant. Therefore to "give man up" is to withdraw His teaching, guidance, and mercy and allow man continue in his wickedness"[https://ebible.com/questions/197-what-does-it-mean-that-god-will-give-them-over-to-a-debased-mind][[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 22:48, 27 November 2019 (EST)

:::Personally, since the Bible says in Romans 1 that he gives men/women over to a depraved mind who fail to acknowledge Him and some engage in homosexuality, you can regard homosexuality as a quasi type of punishment. To explain what I mean, here is what a pastor said, "From the foregoing man has fallen into a debased state, and God's yearning  is to teach, guide and bestow his abundant mercy so that he is reconciled back to Him, by seeing and coming into His covenant. Therefore to "give man up" is to withdraw His teaching, guidance, and mercy and allow man continue in his wickedness"[https://ebible.com/questions/197-what-does-it-mean-that-god-will-give-them-over-to-a-debased-mind][[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 22:48, 27 November 2019 (EST)