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| | Romans 1:26, as it happens, but interesting nonetheless. You owe Hsmom an apology. --[[User:Robledo|Robledo]] 17:30, 11 May 2007 (EDT) | | Romans 1:26, as it happens, but interesting nonetheless. You owe Hsmom an apology. --[[User:Robledo|Robledo]] 17:30, 11 May 2007 (EDT) |
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| | ''While the FBI reports statistics by victim class or bias motivation, race, religion, sexual orientation and disability, the FBI only reports offender statistics by race; thus it is not possible to measure how much gay-on-gay or gay domestic union violence occurs versus homosexual victims of heterosexual offenders. '' | | ''While the FBI reports statistics by victim class or bias motivation, race, religion, sexual orientation and disability, the FBI only reports offender statistics by race; thus it is not possible to measure how much gay-on-gay or gay domestic union violence occurs versus homosexual victims of heterosexual offenders. '' |
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| | :I have followed her intelligent comments on [[homeschooling]], and I am with you there. Well, at least, here: hsmom for sysop! [[User:Human|Human]] 22:54, 12 May 2007 (EDT) | | :I have followed her intelligent comments on [[homeschooling]], and I am with you there. Well, at least, here: hsmom for sysop! [[User:Human|Human]] 22:54, 12 May 2007 (EDT) |
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| | + | :::Aw shucks, thanks guys - and right before Mother's Day too.--[[User:Hsmom|Hsmom]] 10:52, 14 May 2007 (EDT) |
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| | ::The statistical flaw in the way the FBI compiles statistics, mandated by law, is it creates and defines a "victim class"; then it only defines "offenders" by race. A classic example of "mixing apples and oranges", as defined by law. [[User:RobS|RobS]] 16:12, 13 May 2007 (EDT) | | ::The statistical flaw in the way the FBI compiles statistics, mandated by law, is it creates and defines a "victim class"; then it only defines "offenders" by race. A classic example of "mixing apples and oranges", as defined by law. [[User:RobS|RobS]] 16:12, 13 May 2007 (EDT) |
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| | + | :::[[User:RobS|RobS]], since you haven't answered my concerns here, I've made some changes to the article. I'm sure you'll have some changes to what I wrote too - please try to add to it or adjust it rather than just reverting to the previous version. Let's work together to find a version that is clear and well-cited and focuses on the topic at hand (homophobia). |
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| | + | :::I still do not understand what you think statistics on offender class would do. I would like to understand your point of view here. I'm guessing that most of the crimes that include racial bias would be done by someone of one race to someone of another, most of the crimes that include sexual-orientation bias would be done by someone of one orientation to someone of another, etc. Do you have a different understanding of these crimes? Can you give a hypothetical example? I am trying to understand your point of view.--[[User:Hsmom|Hsmom]] 10:52, 14 May 2007 (EDT) |