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:Honestly, I've never considered the exact date to be of much importance. I've just assumed that it was around the time of what is now the calendar change, and figured that was close enough. I am not aware of any new information available to us now, which they didn't have when they changed the calendar.

:Honestly, I've never considered the exact date to be of much importance. I've just assumed that it was around the time of what is now the calendar change, and figured that was close enough. I am not aware of any new information available to us now, which they didn't have when they changed the calendar.

:Jesus was executed at about 33 years of age, so based on the time Pilate was governor, Jesus must have been born between 7 B.C. and 3 A.D. It also seems that that Pilate was somewhat established at the time of Jesus' execution, so he must have been in office for at least a few years by then. (Pilate's tradition of releasing one criminal each year was well established at this point.)  That has always seemed close enough to me. --[[User:DavidB4|<font color="ForestGreen">DavidB4</font>]] ^{([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]])} 22:39, 3 May 2020 (EDT)

:Jesus was executed at about 33 years of age, so based on the time Pilate was governor, Jesus must have been born between 7 B.C. and 3 A.D. It also seems that that Pilate was somewhat established at the time of Jesus' execution, so he must have been in office for at least a few years by then. (Pilate's tradition of releasing one criminal each year was well established at this point.)  That has always seemed close enough to me. --[[User:DavidB4|<font color="ForestGreen">DavidB4</font>]] ^{([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]])} 22:39, 3 May 2020 (EDT)

::Both Matthew and Luke say Herod was king at the time Jesus was born. Herod died shortly after a lunar eclipse on March 13, 4 BC, according to Josephus. This is the basis for the claim that Jesus was born in 4 BC. Herod Antipas, Herod's son, became king in 4 BC according to his coinage. See "[https://www.biblicalarchaeology.org/daily/people-cultures-in-the-bible/jesus-historical-jesus/herods-death-jesus-birth-and-a-lunar-eclipse/ Herod’s Death, Jesus’ Birth and a Lunar Eclipse]." The traditional 2 BC birth year is from Luke 3:1,23 as explained above. Perhaps the gospel writers confused Herod the father and Herod the son. The Venus-Jupiter conjunction of June 17, 2 B.C is a popular explanation for the [[Star of Bethlehem]]. See "[https://www.space.com/33866-venus-jupiter-conjunction-star-of-bethlehem.html Saturday's Venus-Jupiter Encounter May Explain Bible's Star of Bethlehem]." [[User:PeterKa|PeterKa]] ([[User talk:PeterKa|talk]]) 04:17, 4 May 2020 (EDT)

::Both Matthew and Luke say Herod was king at the time Jesus was born. Herod died shortly after a lunar eclipse on March 13, 4 BC, according to Josephus. Herod Antipas, Herod's son, became king in 4 BC, according to his coinage. It's a safe bet Herod was dead by that time. See "[https://www.biblicalarchaeology.org/daily/people-cultures-in-the-bible/jesus-historical-jesus/herods-death-jesus-birth-and-a-lunar-eclipse/ Herod’s Death, Jesus’ Birth and a Lunar Eclipse]." This is the basis for the claim that Jesus was born in 4 BC. The traditional 2 BC birth year is from Luke 3:1,23 as explained above. Perhaps the gospel writers confused Herod the father and Herod the son. The Venus-Jupiter conjunction of June 17, 2 B.C is a popular explanation for the [[Star of Bethlehem]]. See "[https://www.space.com/33866-venus-jupiter-conjunction-star-of-bethlehem.html Saturday's Venus-Jupiter Encounter May Explain Bible's Star of Bethlehem]." [[User:PeterKa|PeterKa]] ([[User talk:PeterKa|talk]]) 04:17, 4 May 2020 (EDT)