::I've always applied a simple solution to the problem Ed so clearly outlined - strip away all pretenses to altruism, and look at (a) the actual record, and (b) which actually defines its true motives and aims. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Live Free or Die]]</sup> 13:43, 19 May 2020 (EDT) | ::I've always applied a simple solution to the problem Ed so clearly outlined - strip away all pretenses to altruism, and look at (a) the actual record, and (b) which actually defines its true motives and aims. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Live Free or Die]]</sup> 13:43, 19 May 2020 (EDT) |