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:That is a good point.  But this article is rather soft on what seems to be a liberal political activists group.  E.g., adopting the liberial preferred "pro-choice."  [[User:HeartOfGold|HeartOfGold]] 00:29, 17 May 2007 (EDT)
 
:That is a good point.  But this article is rather soft on what seems to be a liberal political activists group.  E.g., adopting the liberial preferred "pro-choice."  [[User:HeartOfGold|HeartOfGold]] 00:29, 17 May 2007 (EDT)
 
::That minor issue is being discussed on Aschlafly's talk page. --<font color="#0000CC" face="Comic Sans MS">[[User:Hojimachong|'''Hojimachong''']]</font><sup><font color="00FFAA">[[User_Talk:Hojimachong|talk]]</font></sup> 00:30, 17 May 2007 (EDT)
 
::That minor issue is being discussed on Aschlafly's talk page. --<font color="#0000CC" face="Comic Sans MS">[[User:Hojimachong|'''Hojimachong''']]</font><sup><font color="00FFAA">[[User_Talk:Hojimachong|talk]]</font></sup> 00:30, 17 May 2007 (EDT)
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::My last thought is that a) we should use the term Anti-Flag uses in describing itself, and b) I wasn't able to find a good self-description on their site... at least, not one that talks about abortion politics. I don't think it's an important part of their political identity. So, c) someone should just snip that part, and if someone else wants to put it back a good out would be to be specific, and say something like "the band performed at a rally for NARAL" or whatever. [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith]] 09:19, 17 May 2007 (EDT)
    
The site appears to be written by a fan, and has a POV in that manner. I agree, Heartofgold, that it does need a rewrite. This reminds me of when a Yankees fan wrote [[New York Yankees]] in a tone with such excessive praise that we ended up removing most of what he wrote. [[User:DanH|DanH]] 00:31, 17 May 2007 (EDT)
 
The site appears to be written by a fan, and has a POV in that manner. I agree, Heartofgold, that it does need a rewrite. This reminds me of when a Yankees fan wrote [[New York Yankees]] in a tone with such excessive praise that we ended up removing most of what he wrote. [[User:DanH|DanH]] 00:31, 17 May 2007 (EDT)
    
:Thanks.  Some other points.  With regard to Al Gore, and other political organizations or persons.  Those examples are either politicians or political institutions.  A punk rock band is political entertainment.  A better example would be an obscure spoken word poet (who may be notable in the world of the "spoken word").  Even so, I did try to find some other sources for this article, but all I found (after a brief search) were fans, except for criticisms by ultra-liberials that the band "sold out" by signing with a big record company.  I don't think this group shows up on most conservative's radar (I had not heard of them until today, when I somehow came accross it, probably on the recently edited list).  Consequently, while it could use a rewrite, I am not sure it will be able to achieve the balance you would expect on a conservative encyclopedia, short of conservative contributors listening to the music and writing an original critique (not something I advocate here).  [[User:HeartOfGold|HeartOfGold]] 00:43, 17 May 2007 (EDT)
 
:Thanks.  Some other points.  With regard to Al Gore, and other political organizations or persons.  Those examples are either politicians or political institutions.  A punk rock band is political entertainment.  A better example would be an obscure spoken word poet (who may be notable in the world of the "spoken word").  Even so, I did try to find some other sources for this article, but all I found (after a brief search) were fans, except for criticisms by ultra-liberials that the band "sold out" by signing with a big record company.  I don't think this group shows up on most conservative's radar (I had not heard of them until today, when I somehow came accross it, probably on the recently edited list).  Consequently, while it could use a rewrite, I am not sure it will be able to achieve the balance you would expect on a conservative encyclopedia, short of conservative contributors listening to the music and writing an original critique (not something I advocate here).  [[User:HeartOfGold|HeartOfGold]] 00:43, 17 May 2007 (EDT)
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It certainly needs a rewrite. It's wildly opinionated, and mostly unsourced. [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith]] 09:19, 17 May 2007 (EDT)
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