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:In this case, accuracy would call for "pro-choice", as many who take the "let's keep abortion legal" position are themselves pro-life, would never consider an abortion for themselves or suggest someone else have one, and may even feel that it is immoral, but nonetheless feel that the decision should be made by the individual woman rather than the government. Thus these people are most accurately called pro-choice.--[[User:Hsmom|Hsmom]] 17:47, 17 May 2007 (EDT)

:In this case, accuracy would call for "pro-choice", as many who take the "let's keep abortion legal" position are themselves pro-life, would never consider an abortion for themselves or suggest someone else have one, and may even feel that it is immoral, but nonetheless feel that the decision should be made by the individual woman rather than the government. Thus these people are most accurately called pro-choice.--[[User:Hsmom|Hsmom]] 17:47, 17 May 2007 (EDT)

::Don't mind your two cents, and oddly enough, half an hour ago I heard Rudy Giuliani on the radio expressing ''precisely'' this position.

::[[User:Hsmom|Hsmom]], I don't mind your two cents, and oddly enough, half an hour ago I heard Rudy Giuliani on the radio expressing ''precisely'' this position.

::Nevertheless, I don't agree with you. Both of the phrases are dishonest. Both try to obfuscate the issue by not saying what the issue is about—abortion—and by replacing it with a vague, nice word that nobody could be against. Who could be anti-life? Who could be anti-choice?  

::Nevertheless, I don't agree with you. Both of the phrases are dishonest. Both try to obfuscate the issue by not saying what the issue is about—abortion—and by replacing it with a vague, nice word that nobody could be against. Who could be anti-life? Who could be anti-choice?  

::It's hard to condense a complex position into a short phrase, but it really seems obvious to me that if one wanted to pick short, simple names for the factions, those names would be "pro-abortion" and "anti-abortion." Now, before you jump all over me ''of course'' "pro-abortion" here "favoring legal abortion," not "encouraging abortion." Very few people would sincerely misunderstand this (although some might pretend to, to score debating points). And, yes, "pro-abortion" does not capture the very important question of whose choice it is. [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith]] 19:14, 17 May 2007 (EDT)

::It's hard to condense a complex position into a short phrase, but it really seems obvious to me that if one wanted to pick short, simple names for the factions, those names would be "pro-abortion" and "anti-abortion." Now, before you jump all over me ''of course'' "pro-abortion" here "favoring legal abortion," not "encouraging abortion." Very few people would sincerely misunderstand this (although some might pretend to, to score debating points). And, yes, "pro-abortion" does not capture the very important question of whose choice it is. [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith]] 19:14, 17 May 2007 (EDT)