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"Moreover, two of the book's main contributors—Nicolas Werth and Jean-Louis Margolin—as well as Karel Bartosek<ref name=LeMonde_Chemin_1997>{{cite news|last = Chemin| first = Ariane| url=http://www.lemonde.fr/archives/article/1997/10/31/les-divisions-d-une-equipe-d-historiens-du-communisme_3811179_1819218.html|title=Les divisions d'une équipe d'historiens du communisme [Divisions among the team of historians of Communism]|date=1997-10-30|newspaper=Le Monde.fr|language=fr|issn=1950-6244|access-date=2016-08-03}}</ref> publicly disassociated themselves from Courtois' statements in the introduction and criticized his editorial conduct. Werth and Margolin felt Courtois was "obsessed" with arriving at a total of 100 million killed which resulted in "sloppy and biased scholarship"<ref>{{cite book|last=Ghodsee|first=Kristen|date=2017|title=Red Hangover: Legacies of Twentieth-Century Communism|url=https://www.dukeupress.edu/red-hangover|publisher=[[Duke University Press]]|page=140|isbn=978-0822369493|author-link=Kristen Ghodsee}}</ref> and faulted him for exaggerating death tolls in specific countries.<ref name=LeMonde_Chemin_1997 /><ref name=Gvosdev_2008>{{cite book|url=https://books.google.com/books?id=Q_xTyZUEqkYC|title=The Strange Death of Soviet Communism: A Postscript|last=Gvosdev|first=Nikolas K.|publisher=Transaction Publishers|year=2008|isbn=9781412835176|language=en|via=}}</ref><ref name=Ghodsee_2017>{{cite journal| volume = 4| issue = 2| pages = 115–142| last = Ghodsee| first = Kristen| title = A tale of" Two Totalitarianisms": The crisis of capitalism and the historical memory of communism|journal=History of the Present| date = 2014|url=http://scholar.harvard.edu/files/kristenghodsee/files/history_of_the_present_galleys.pdf| jstor = 10.5406/historypresent.4.2.0115|authorlink=Kristen Ghodsee| doi = 10.5406/historypresent.4.2.0115}}</ref> They also argued that based on the results of their studies, one can tentatively estimate the total number of the victims at between 65 and 93 million.<ref name=LeMonde_Margolin_Werth_1997>{{cite news|url= http://www.lemonde.fr/archives/article/1997/11/14/communisme-retour-a-l-histoire_3810094_1819218.html |title= Communisme : retour à l'histoire |newspaper= [[Le Monde]] |first1= Jean-Louis |last1= Margolin |first2= Nicolas |last2= Werth |authorlink2= Nicolas Werth |date= 1997-11-14 |accessdate= 2015-06-14 |trans-title=Communism: Return to the history |language= fr }}</ref> In particular, Margolin, who authored the ''Black Book''{{'}}s chapter on Vietnam, clarified "that he has never mentioned a million deaths in Vietnam".<ref name=LeMonde_Chemin_1997 />"
 
"Moreover, two of the book's main contributors—Nicolas Werth and Jean-Louis Margolin—as well as Karel Bartosek<ref name=LeMonde_Chemin_1997>{{cite news|last = Chemin| first = Ariane| url=http://www.lemonde.fr/archives/article/1997/10/31/les-divisions-d-une-equipe-d-historiens-du-communisme_3811179_1819218.html|title=Les divisions d'une équipe d'historiens du communisme [Divisions among the team of historians of Communism]|date=1997-10-30|newspaper=Le Monde.fr|language=fr|issn=1950-6244|access-date=2016-08-03}}</ref> publicly disassociated themselves from Courtois' statements in the introduction and criticized his editorial conduct. Werth and Margolin felt Courtois was "obsessed" with arriving at a total of 100 million killed which resulted in "sloppy and biased scholarship"<ref>{{cite book|last=Ghodsee|first=Kristen|date=2017|title=Red Hangover: Legacies of Twentieth-Century Communism|url=https://www.dukeupress.edu/red-hangover|publisher=[[Duke University Press]]|page=140|isbn=978-0822369493|author-link=Kristen Ghodsee}}</ref> and faulted him for exaggerating death tolls in specific countries.<ref name=LeMonde_Chemin_1997 /><ref name=Gvosdev_2008>{{cite book|url=https://books.google.com/books?id=Q_xTyZUEqkYC|title=The Strange Death of Soviet Communism: A Postscript|last=Gvosdev|first=Nikolas K.|publisher=Transaction Publishers|year=2008|isbn=9781412835176|language=en|via=}}</ref><ref name=Ghodsee_2017>{{cite journal| volume = 4| issue = 2| pages = 115–142| last = Ghodsee| first = Kristen| title = A tale of" Two Totalitarianisms": The crisis of capitalism and the historical memory of communism|journal=History of the Present| date = 2014|url=http://scholar.harvard.edu/files/kristenghodsee/files/history_of_the_present_galleys.pdf| jstor = 10.5406/historypresent.4.2.0115|authorlink=Kristen Ghodsee| doi = 10.5406/historypresent.4.2.0115}}</ref> They also argued that based on the results of their studies, one can tentatively estimate the total number of the victims at between 65 and 93 million.<ref name=LeMonde_Margolin_Werth_1997>{{cite news|url= http://www.lemonde.fr/archives/article/1997/11/14/communisme-retour-a-l-histoire_3810094_1819218.html |title= Communisme : retour à l'histoire |newspaper= [[Le Monde]] |first1= Jean-Louis |last1= Margolin |first2= Nicolas |last2= Werth |authorlink2= Nicolas Werth |date= 1997-11-14 |accessdate= 2015-06-14 |trans-title=Communism: Return to the history |language= fr }}</ref> In particular, Margolin, who authored the ''Black Book''{{'}}s chapter on Vietnam, clarified "that he has never mentioned a million deaths in Vietnam".<ref name=LeMonde_Chemin_1997 />"
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[[User:Pokeria1|Pokeria1]] ([[User talk:Pokeria1|talk]]) 06:36, 27 June 2020 (EDT)
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[[User:Pokeria1|Pokeria1]] ([[User talk:Pokeria1|talk]]) 06:36, 27 June 2020 (EDT)
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Start with "the death of one is a tragedy; the death of a million is a statistic" - Joseph Stalin. That's apparently the basis of that dispute and where it's headed. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Trump 2Q2Q]]</sup> 10:03, 27 June 2020 (EDT)
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Start with "the death of one is a tragedy; the death of a million is a statistic" - Joseph Stalin. That's apparently the the basis of that dispute and where it's headed. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Trump 2Q2Q]]</sup> 10:03, 27 June 2020 (EDT)
      
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