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''3 For ye are yet carnal'' [You must be spiritually born.] [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Trump 2Q2Q]]</sup> 18:53, 10 July 2020 (EDT)}}
 
''3 For ye are yet carnal'' [You must be spiritually born.] [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Trump 2Q2Q]]</sup> 18:53, 10 July 2020 (EDT)}}
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:::::You don't. You add to Scripture. You suggestively imply that the Bible opposes the Church, the Church supported by the Bible in establishing its divine authority established by God, and you oppose what God has established. You condemn yourself on that basis alone, a standard you yourself have set up and have constantly violated. '''You yourself go beyond the Doctrine of Christ because you go beyond and outside of the Doctrine of the Church by your anti-catholic opposition to the Church.'''  
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::::You don't. You add to Scripture. You suggestively imply that the Bible opposes the Church, the Church supported by the Bible in establishing its divine authority established by God, and you oppose what God has established. You condemn yourself on that basis alone, a standard you yourself have set up and have constantly violated. '''You yourself go beyond the Doctrine of Christ because you go beyond and outside of the Doctrine of the Church by your anti-catholic opposition to the Church.'''  
 
::::::*''The worst are anti-catholic Protestants. You have no charity or truth in you.''
 
::::::*''The worst are anti-catholic Protestants. You have no charity or truth in you.''
 
::::(''It Burns, doesn't it!'') <br>Catholics believe the Bible, they believe Jesus' words, they obey the Church, and all that the Church has revealed and taught from God the Holy Spirit (Jn 14:16; Jn 16:12-15), because God has taught '''''the Doctrine of Christ that we are to listen to and obey the Church, in all things having to do with faith and morals.''''' I believe the scriptures, that's why I came to believe in the Catholic Church and why I've been accepted into the Catholic Church as a member of the Body of Christ by the holy baptism of water and the Spirit without which no one can enter the Kingdom of God. --[[User:IndependentSkeptic|IndependentSkeptic]] ([[User talk:IndependentSkeptic|talk]]) 17:16, 10 July 2020 (EDT)
 
::::(''It Burns, doesn't it!'') <br>Catholics believe the Bible, they believe Jesus' words, they obey the Church, and all that the Church has revealed and taught from God the Holy Spirit (Jn 14:16; Jn 16:12-15), because God has taught '''''the Doctrine of Christ that we are to listen to and obey the Church, in all things having to do with faith and morals.''''' I believe the scriptures, that's why I came to believe in the Catholic Church and why I've been accepted into the Catholic Church as a member of the Body of Christ by the holy baptism of water and the Spirit without which no one can enter the Kingdom of God. --[[User:IndependentSkeptic|IndependentSkeptic]] ([[User talk:IndependentSkeptic|talk]]) 17:16, 10 July 2020 (EDT)
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