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| | :::::Look, this request is no biggee. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Trump 2Q2Q]]</sup> 09:50, 13 July 2020 (EDT) | | :::::Look, this request is no biggee. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Trump 2Q2Q]]</sup> 09:50, 13 July 2020 (EDT) |
| | ::::::No problem. read NishantXavier's comment below "Excommunication in Mat 18:15-18 itself shows ther is Only One True Church..." --[[User:Dataclarifier|Dataclarifier]] ([[User talk:Dataclarifier|talk]]) 10:25, 13 July 2020 (EDT) | | ::::::No problem. read NishantXavier's comment below "Excommunication in Mat 18:15-18 itself shows ther is Only One True Church..." --[[User:Dataclarifier|Dataclarifier]] ([[User talk:Dataclarifier|talk]]) 10:25, 13 July 2020 (EDT) |
| | + | :::::::I did. Your misunderstanding of scripture is not a trespass against me. If I took that complaint to two or three witnesses or the church as a whole, I'd be a liar. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Trump 2Q2Q]]</sup> 10:32, 13 July 2020 (EDT) |
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| | Excommunication in Mat 18:15-18 itself shows there is Only One True Church, and that this Church is Visible and Apostolic, and can be identified easily by all; moreover, that this Church has the Keys of Heaven to bind and loose on earth, to issue binding dogmatic and disciplinary pronouncements. Which Church meets the requirements of the Biblical Church? The Catholic Church of course. She is visible, Apostolic, One, and issues binding doctrinal and disciplinary pronouncements including excommunication, like how Martin Luther for e.g. was excommunicated from Her. [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 08:25, 13 July 2020 (EDT) | | Excommunication in Mat 18:15-18 itself shows there is Only One True Church, and that this Church is Visible and Apostolic, and can be identified easily by all; moreover, that this Church has the Keys of Heaven to bind and loose on earth, to issue binding dogmatic and disciplinary pronouncements. Which Church meets the requirements of the Biblical Church? The Catholic Church of course. She is visible, Apostolic, One, and issues binding doctrinal and disciplinary pronouncements including excommunication, like how Martin Luther for e.g. was excommunicated from Her. [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 08:25, 13 July 2020 (EDT) |
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| | :Rejecting the Pope is not a trespass by your brother against you. To allege that it is, is to make yourself God - idolatry and pride. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Trump 2Q2Q]]</sup> 10:04, 13 July 2020 (EDT) | | :Rejecting the Pope is not a trespass by your brother against you. To allege that it is, is to make yourself God - idolatry and pride. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Trump 2Q2Q]]</sup> 10:04, 13 July 2020 (EDT) |
| | ::The point of the whole verse is listening to the decisions of the Church on '''any''' controverted issue. You, brother, offend by rejecting the Church. Her decision in such an offense is already a matter of record. And you refuse to listen. I fear for you. --[[User:Dataclarifier|Dataclarifier]] ([[User talk:Dataclarifier|talk]]) 10:29, 13 July 2020 (EDT) | | ::The point of the whole verse is listening to the decisions of the Church on '''any''' controverted issue. You, brother, offend by rejecting the Church. Her decision in such an offense is already a matter of record. And you refuse to listen. I fear for you. --[[User:Dataclarifier|Dataclarifier]] ([[User talk:Dataclarifier|talk]]) 10:29, 13 July 2020 (EDT) |
| | + | :::You didn't read the verse. It speaks of a private interaction between two individuals. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Trump 2Q2Q]]</sup> 10:32, 13 July 2020 (EDT) |
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| | == Rob Smith, still waiting for you to summarize 3 or 4 essential beliefs of the Gospel in one para == | | == Rob Smith, still waiting for you to summarize 3 or 4 essential beliefs of the Gospel in one para == |