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→I think the lead section should make it clear that Santa Claus does not exist.
::I understand, but any kind of encyclopedia (conservative or otherwise) is supposed to give facts. For some topics, it is debatable what is considered as a fact, but there is no doubt that Santa Claus is not living, and many reliable (and conservative, if you wish) sources mention it. I don't intend to get involved in the more controversial articles of this site, but I do believe that this article should make it clear that Santa Claus does not exist. If kids are able to understand the difference between conservatism and liberalism (and other political viewpoints) and find this wiki, then they are mature enough and should learn that Santa Claus does not exist. Also, this and the corresponding Wikipedia article are at a high enough reading level that little kids would not find the article and read it. [[User:Félix An|Félix An]] ([[User talk:Félix An|talk]]) 17:40, 18 July 2020 (EDT)
::I understand, but any kind of encyclopedia (conservative or otherwise) is supposed to give facts. For some topics, it is debatable what is considered as a fact, but there is no doubt that Santa Claus is not living, and many reliable (and conservative, if you wish) sources mention it. I don't intend to get involved in the more controversial articles of this site, but I do believe that this article should make it clear that Santa Claus does not exist. If kids are able to understand the difference between conservatism and liberalism (and other political viewpoints) and find this wiki, then they are mature enough and should learn that Santa Claus does not exist. Also, this and the corresponding Wikipedia article are at a high enough reading level that little kids would not find the article and read it. [[User:Félix An|Félix An]] ([[User talk:Félix An|talk]]) 17:40, 18 July 2020 (EDT)
:::There is a certain, little magic in the air at the sight of little kids getting up early on a Christmas morning, sneaking out of their bedrooms so mom and dad doesn't wake up, and seeing a pile of gifts under the tree meant for them...and they are thinking that a friendly jolly fat man did it all. Eventually as time goes by and the kids grow up, they in turn will have their own kids who will experience the same thing.
:::You're missing the point here, Felix. We have little kids coming here. And these little kids have just one, and only one, childhood in their lives, and it has to be the best childhood, period. As an encyclopedia, yes, we have to present the facts, but we are not going to have a dumbed-down article with overkill on the use of the word "imaginary" within a summary that you think should be mandatory because Wikipedia does it. [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] ([[User talk:Karajou|talk]]) 16:12, 21 July 2020 (EDT)
When you made your first edits to this article, Felix, you had to insist three times within the first two paragraphs that Santa wasn't real, when a single use of the word "folklore" had already established that. Secondly, the sources you used describing the presents laid under the tree were all from liberal sources, two of which were completely negative, and one of which the reader cannot see unless he's got a subscription to the New York Times. So please explain why you feel those edits are so critical - your words - that they have to be here. [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] ([[User talk:Karajou|talk]]) 16:14, 15 July 2020 (EDT)
When you made your first edits to this article, Felix, you had to insist three times within the first two paragraphs that Santa wasn't real, when a single use of the word "folklore" had already established that. Secondly, the sources you used describing the presents laid under the tree were all from liberal sources, two of which were completely negative, and one of which the reader cannot see unless he's got a subscription to the New York Times. So please explain why you feel those edits are so critical - your words - that they have to be here. [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] ([[User talk:Karajou|talk]]) 16:14, 15 July 2020 (EDT)