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Debate: Does the Magisterium have authority over the Bible, or does the Bible have authority over the Magisterium? (view source)
Revision as of 05:27, August 3, 2020
, 05:27, August 3, 2020→Answer from IndependentSkeptic ( 01:01, 3 August 2020 (EDT) ): provided reference of Bible passages quoted in this section Mt 16:19; 1 Tim 3:15; Rom 13:1-2; Heb 13:17
:*if the ordinances of the Magisterium are from man the Bible commands that you submit;
:*if the ordinances of the Magisterium are from man the Bible commands that you submit;
:*if the Bible as the infallible Word of God says there is no power/authority but of God: the powers/authorities that be are ordained of God: whosoever therefore resisteth the power/authority, resisteth the ordinance of God: therefore they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation (and the Bible does say it)—then Bible-believers who resist the ordinances of the established power/authority of the magisterium of the church shall receive to themselves damnation.
:*if the Bible as the infallible Word of God says there is no power/authority but of God: the powers/authorities that be are ordained of God: whosoever therefore resisteth the power/authority, resisteth the ordinance of God: therefore they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation (and the Bible does say it)—then Bible-believers who resist the ordinances of the established power/authority of the magisterium of the church shall receive to themselves damnation.
:The Bible also commands: "Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves: for they watch for your souls, as they that must give account, that they may do it with joy, and not with grief: for that ''is'' unprofitable for you."
:The Bible also commands: "Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves: for they watch for your souls, as they that must give account, that they may do it with joy, and not with grief: for that ''is'' unprofitable for you."<ref>See Matthew 16:19; 1 Timothy 3:15; Romans 13:1-2; Hebrews 13:17</ref>
'''So'''—we propose a counter-question: Is the Bible the Word of God? Will you obey the Word of God?<br>We'll leave it at that for you to answer. We're just asking the simple question. We don't intend to stay and debate it since this is our final post on leaving Conservapedia. For us the answer seems obvious, so we won't be checking back for your response. We hope you have an answer, for the benefit of people who read this page. Peace be with you. --[[User:IndependentSkeptic|IndependentSkeptic]] ([[User talk:IndependentSkeptic|talk]]) 01:01, 3 August 2020 (EDT)
'''So'''—we propose a counter-question: Is the Bible the Word of God? Will you obey the Word of God?<br>We'll leave it at that for you to answer. We're just asking the simple question. We don't intend to stay and debate it since this is our final post on leaving Conservapedia. For us the answer seems obvious, so we won't be checking back for your response. We hope you have an answer, for the benefit of people who read this page. Peace be with you. --[[User:IndependentSkeptic|IndependentSkeptic]] ([[User talk:IndependentSkeptic|talk]]) 01:01, 3 August 2020 (EDT)