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:It was entirely a work of men, not of God. This is clear from the text. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Trump 2Q2Q]]</sup> 13:59, 8 August 2020 (EDT)
 
:It was entirely a work of men, not of God. This is clear from the text. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Trump 2Q2Q]]</sup> 13:59, 8 August 2020 (EDT)
 
::"'''And they prayed, and said, Thou, Lord, which knowest the hearts of all ''men'', shew whether of these two thou hast chosen, That he may take part of this ministry and apostleship, from which Judas by transgression fell, that he might go to his own place. And they gave forth their lots; and the lot fell upon Matthias; and he was numbered with the eleven apostles.'''" <br> The college of cardinals makes the same prayer in their discernment of voting for who will be the next pope: "'''Thou, Lord, who knows the hearts of all ''men'', show which of these men thou hast chosen, that he may take part of this ministry and apostleship.'''" <br> It was a work of God, in answer to their prayer. --[[User:Dataclarifier|Dataclarifier]] ([[User talk:Dataclarifier|talk]]) 16:10, 8 August 2020 (EDT)
 
::"'''And they prayed, and said, Thou, Lord, which knowest the hearts of all ''men'', shew whether of these two thou hast chosen, That he may take part of this ministry and apostleship, from which Judas by transgression fell, that he might go to his own place. And they gave forth their lots; and the lot fell upon Matthias; and he was numbered with the eleven apostles.'''" <br> The college of cardinals makes the same prayer in their discernment of voting for who will be the next pope: "'''Thou, Lord, who knows the hearts of all ''men'', show which of these men thou hast chosen, that he may take part of this ministry and apostleship.'''" <br> It was a work of God, in answer to their prayer. --[[User:Dataclarifier|Dataclarifier]] ([[User talk:Dataclarifier|talk]]) 16:10, 8 August 2020 (EDT)
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:Well, I guess Paul was just lucky number 13 then, huh? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Trump 2Q2Q]]</sup> 16:50, 8 August 2020 (EDT)
    
====Proofs that condemnations of Catholic doctrine are false====
 
====Proofs that condemnations of Catholic doctrine are false====
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