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Dataclarifier's argument seems to be the Roman Church has "authority".  Dataclarifier habitually posts excessive spam references to bible verses with no context to the discussion.  These debates, and particularly a Debate on grace, are designed to examine this alleged "authority". Under the biblical doctrine of grace God, God uses his legal authority to free the sinner from the legal consequences of sin. This is not too big a concept to wrap one's head round. Readers simply want to know what the Roman Catholic position is on grace.  
 
Dataclarifier's argument seems to be the Roman Church has "authority".  Dataclarifier habitually posts excessive spam references to bible verses with no context to the discussion.  These debates, and particularly a Debate on grace, are designed to examine this alleged "authority". Under the biblical doctrine of grace God, God uses his legal authority to free the sinner from the legal consequences of sin. This is not too big a concept to wrap one's head round. Readers simply want to know what the Roman Catholic position is on grace.  
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Excessive spam postings that dozens if not hundreds of bible verses, repetitively, while some may think look "authoritive", are not helpful.  We simply want to understand what the meaning of Romans 6:14 is:
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Excessive spam postings citing dozens if not hundreds of bible verses, repetitively, while some may think look "authoritive", are not helpful.  We simply want to understand what the meaning of Romans 6:14 is:
 
*''ye are not under law, but under grace''  
 
*''ye are not under law, but under grace''  
 
A cosmetic appeal to look "authoritive" while adding nothing to the debate or discussion, does nothing to articulate the position of the Roman Catholic church on grace.  [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Trump 2Q2Q]]</sup> 09:19, 24 August 2020 (EDT)
 
A cosmetic appeal to look "authoritive" while adding nothing to the debate or discussion, does nothing to articulate the position of the Roman Catholic church on grace.  [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Trump 2Q2Q]]</sup> 09:19, 24 August 2020 (EDT)
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