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:::Disobedience - rejecting what God says here, and you reject the Gospel. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Trump 2Q2Q]]</sup> 15:00, 27 August 2020 (EDT)
 
:::Disobedience - rejecting what God says here, and you reject the Gospel. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Trump 2Q2Q]]</sup> 15:00, 27 August 2020 (EDT)
 
:::Adam and Eve, for example, their real disobedience was in not believing what God said, moreso than in the act of partaking of the forbidden fruit. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Trump 2Q2Q]]</sup> 18:10, 27 August 2020 (EDT)
 
:::Adam and Eve, for example, their real disobedience was in not believing what God said, moreso than in the act of partaking of the forbidden fruit. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Trump 2Q2Q]]</sup> 18:10, 27 August 2020 (EDT)
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::::''You keep [[spam]]ming the same lie!'' '''Disobedience, [[Rebellion against God|Rebellion]], [[Licentiousness]], [[Libertinism]], [[Antinomianism]], [[Anarchism]], [[Amoral]]ity, [[Individualism]].''' ''Your real disobedience is in not believing Jesus, in not believing what God Himself said, in not believing the Bible!'' --[[User:IndependentSkeptic|IndependentSkeptic]] ([[User talk:IndependentSkeptic|talk]]) 19:57, 27 August 2020 (EDT)<br>The spiritual definition of '''obedience''' is actively choosing and '''''doing what is right''''', not solely believing alone, but actually doing what God commands, the will of the Father. <br>The spiritual definition of '''disobedience''' is '''''not''''' choosing to '''''do what is right''''' in deeds of wickedness and unrighteousness, by relying solely on believing alone, and not striving with all your heart, soul, mind, and strength to do what God commands, and not acting according to the will of the Father.<br>See '''[https://biblehub.com/luke/6-46.htm Luke 6:46]; [https://biblehub.com/matthew/7-21.htm Matthew 7:21]; [https://biblehub.com/james/1-22.htm James 1:22]''' and '''[https://biblehub.com/james/4-17.htm James 4:17]; [https://biblehub.com/1_john/3-18.htm 1&nbsp;John 3:18]'''<br>Faith that bears fruit in deeds of love and mercy fulfills the law of God, "the doers of the law". [https://biblehub.com/romans/2-13.htm Romans 2:13] and [https://biblehub.com/james/2-24.htm James 2:24].<br>If you don't do good works as he commands and bear fruit in righteousness, you reject the Gospel, and the Son of man on his glorious throne, and all the angels with him, will say to you, "Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels" [https://biblehub.com/matthew/25-41.htm '''Matthew 25:41''' (context Matthew 25:31-46)]; [https://biblehub.com/romans/2-9.htm. '''Romans 2:9''']. --[[User:IndependentSkeptic|IndependentSkeptic]] ([[User talk:IndependentSkeptic|talk]]) 01:49, 28 August 2020 (EDT)
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::::''You keep [[spam]]ming the same lie!'' '''Disobedience, [[Rebellion against God|Rebellion]], [[Licentiousness]], [[Libertinism]], [[Antinomianism]], [[Anarchism]], [[Amoral]]ity, [[Individualism]].''' ''Your real disobedience is in not believing Jesus, in not believing what God Himself said, in not believing the Bible!'' --[[User:IndependentSkeptic|IndependentSkeptic]] ([[User talk:IndependentSkeptic|talk]]) 19:57, 27 August 2020 (EDT)<br>The spiritual definition of '''obedience''' is actively choosing and '''''doing what is right''''', not solely believing alone, but actually doing what God commands, the will of the Father. <br>The spiritual definition of '''disobedience''' is '''''not''''' choosing to '''''do what is right''''' in deeds of wickedness and unrighteousness, by relying solely on believing alone, and not striving with all your heart, soul, mind, and strength to do what God commands, and not acting according to the will of the Father.<br>See '''[https://biblehub.com/luke/6-46.htm Luke 6:46]; [https://biblehub.com/matthew/7-21.htm Matthew 7:21]; [https://biblehub.com/james/1-22.htm James 1:22]''' and '''[https://biblehub.com/james/4-17.htm James 4:17]; [https://biblehub.com/1_john/3-18.htm 1&nbsp;John 3:18]'''<br>Faith that bears fruit in deeds of love and mercy fulfills the law of God, "the doers of the law". [https://biblehub.com/romans/2-13.htm Romans 2:13] and [https://biblehub.com/james/2-24.htm James 2:24] and [https://biblehub.com/john/15-2.htm John 15:2].<br>If you don't do good works as he commands and bear fruit in righteousness, you reject the Gospel, and the Son of man on his glorious throne, and all the angels with him, will say to you, "Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels" [https://biblehub.com/matthew/25-41.htm '''Matthew 25:41''' (context Matthew 25:31-46)]; [https://biblehub.com/romans/2-9.htm. '''Romans 2:9''']. --[[User:IndependentSkeptic|IndependentSkeptic]] ([[User talk:IndependentSkeptic|talk]]) 01:49, 28 August 2020 (EDT)
 
:::Maybe we're making progress here. The spiritual definition of disobedience is not believing God. It appears you just acknowledged that. Disobedience is not necessarily breaking a line item of the 613 commandments or decalogue.  Praise God! We may have a spiritual breakthrough!    [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Trump 2Q2Q]]</sup> 22:49, 27 August 2020 (EDT)
 
:::Maybe we're making progress here. The spiritual definition of disobedience is not believing God. It appears you just acknowledged that. Disobedience is not necessarily breaking a line item of the 613 commandments or decalogue.  Praise God! We may have a spiritual breakthrough!    [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Trump 2Q2Q]]</sup> 22:49, 27 August 2020 (EDT)
  
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