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:::::Oh, so you claim in the 2,000 year history of the church, there was never one single sleezebag in any position, from pope to scribe, who inserted subversive disinformation into the catechism? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]^{[[User talk:RobSmith|Trump 2Q2Q]]}

:::::Oh, so you claim in the 2,000 year history of the church, there was never one single sleezebag in any position, from pope to scribe, who inserted subversive disinformation into the catechism? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]^{[[User talk:RobSmith|Trump 2Q2Q]]}

::::::Oh, people tried. They were judged by the senior-ranking elders, leaders and shepherds of the whole church in council together to be heretics. The actual doctrine of the church Jesus founded, and people defied and went out and taught a different doctrine than this one Church they left, its actual doctrine is a matter of record as consistent with the scriptures, with apostolic tradition, and clarified by the magisterium as the Christian faith. <br> Yes, over the 2000 year history of Christianity, the doctrine of the [[Ante-Nicene Fathers]] and the Post-Nicene Fathers of the Church both east and west has been a consistent, harmonious unfolding of the depths of meaning in the scriptures, bringing out of the whole life of the Church all that is already implicitly present in the revelation of God through Christ our God and Savior as reflected in the Bible and discerned according to the promise of Jesus Christ Our Lord to be the doctrine of the Holy Spirit with us for ever, guaranteeing that the Church from which others departed and separated from is in fact the pillar and ground/foundation/bulwark of the truth. Paul said we have this treasure in fragile clay vessels, but the treasure is pure and true, revealed by God. --[[User:IndependentSkeptic|IndependentSkeptic]] ([[User talk:IndependentSkeptic|talk]]) 19:25, 30 August 2020 (EDT)

::::::Oh, people tried. They were judged by the senior-ranking elders, leaders and shepherds of the whole church in council together to be heretics. The actual doctrine of the church Jesus founded, and people defied and went out and taught a different doctrine than this one Church they left, its actual doctrine is a matter of record as consistent with the scriptures, with apostolic tradition, and clarified by the magisterium as the Christian faith. <br> Yes, over the 2000 year history of Christianity, the doctrine of the [[Ante-Nicene Fathers]] and the Post-Nicene Fathers of the Church both east and west has been a consistent, harmonious unfolding of the depths of meaning in the scriptures, bringing out of the whole life of the Church all that is already implicitly present in the revelation of God through Christ our God and Savior as reflected in the Bible and discerned according to the promise of Jesus Christ Our Lord to be the doctrine of the Holy Spirit with us for ever, guaranteeing that the Church from which others departed and separated from is in fact the pillar and ground/foundation/bulwark of the truth. Paul said we have this treasure in fragile clay vessels, but the treasure is pure and true, revealed by God. --[[User:IndependentSkeptic|IndependentSkeptic]] ([[User talk:IndependentSkeptic|talk]]) 19:25, 30 August 2020 (EDT)