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Debate: Is Roman Catholic teaching on the Holy Spirit biblical? (view source)
Revision as of 06:52, September 2, 2020
, 06:52, September 2, 2020→Open discussion: moved
==Open discussion==
==Open discussion==
:Answer: Let's stipulate the Holy Spirit is called living water:
::The promise of living water
::He was speaking of the Spirit which those who believed in him were to receive; for there was no Spirit as yet because Jesus had not yet been glorified.—John 7:39
:and that Christ instituted the living water baptism:
::The coming of the Advocate
::Still, I must tell you the truth:
::it is for your own good that I am going
::because unless I go,
::the Advocate will not come to you;
::but if I do go,
::I will send Him to you.—John 16:7
:First, does water baptism confer grace?
::[The coming of faith]
::All baptized in Christ, you have all clothed yourselves in Christ,...—Galatians 3:27
::This must be water baptism (Christ's name), but this verse shows this sacrament confers grace.
:After being sent by Christ, the Holy Spirit now pours the virtue of the love of God in our hearts:
::[Faith guarantees salvation]
::And this hope is not deceptive, because the love of God has been poured into our hearts by the Holy Spirit which has been given us.—Romans 5:5
:In fact, the Holy Spirit ''is'' the mutual Love between God and Christ's believers. This verse confirms the possibility:
::[A call to Christian living, and its reward]
::In making these gifts, he has given us the guarantee of something very great and wonderful to come: through them you will be able to share the divine nature and to escape corruption in a world that is sunk in vice.—2nd Peter 1:4
:Let's go back to the first verse:
::The promise of living water
::He was speaking of the Spirit which those who believed in him were to receive; for there was no Spirit as yet because Jesus had not yet been glorified.—John 7:39
:A second example of receiving the Holy Spirit God's self.
:Let's go back three verses:
::[Faith guarantees salvation]
::And this hope is not deceptive, because the love of God has been poured into our hearts by the Holy Spirit which has been given us.—Romans 5:5
:Now grace is something always given by Love, the Love through which all free gifts are given by God. We know the Holy Spirit is spiritually ''in'' the free gift of Love and consequently in all the free gifts he gives. And while the Holy Spirit's most characteristic free gift of God's self is ''sanctifying'' grace, it also applies to special graces like that pertaining to water baptism, in this case,
::ordered to a certain spiritual regeneration by which man dies to vice and becomes a member of Christ....—(Thomas Aquinas [1274]. "Treatise on the Sacraments." ''Summa Theologica'')
:[[User:VargasMilan|VargasMilan]] ([[User talk:VargasMilan|talk]]) Wednesday, 18:12, 26 August 2020 (EDT)
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