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| | ::::::"Practicing obedience" is faith in God, trusting God or believing what he says. You just tossed out what God says, ''ye are under grace and not law;'' ''all who rely on law are under a curse.'' [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Trump 2Q2Q]]</sup> 18:21, 2 September 2020 (EDT) | | ::::::"Practicing obedience" is faith in God, trusting God or believing what he says. You just tossed out what God says, ''ye are under grace and not law;'' ''all who rely on law are under a curse.'' [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Trump 2Q2Q]]</sup> 18:21, 2 September 2020 (EDT) |
| | :::::::*Isaiah 5:20-21 - ''20 Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter! 20 Woe unto ''them that are'' wise in their own eyes, and prudent in their own sight!'' You don't believe what God says about bearing fruit, and the necessity of His deeds done by Him through us who believe him and seek to do His Will. All the scriptures I cited above. You don't believe the Bible. You are disobedient to the word of the Lord. --[[User:IndependentSkeptic|IndependentSkeptic]] ([[User talk:IndependentSkeptic|talk]]) 18:26, 2 September 2020 (EDT) | | :::::::*Isaiah 5:20-21 - ''20 Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter! 20 Woe unto ''them that are'' wise in their own eyes, and prudent in their own sight!'' You don't believe what God says about bearing fruit, and the necessity of His deeds done by Him through us who believe him and seek to do His Will. All the scriptures I cited above. You don't believe the Bible. You are disobedient to the word of the Lord. --[[User:IndependentSkeptic|IndependentSkeptic]] ([[User talk:IndependentSkeptic|talk]]) 18:26, 2 September 2020 (EDT) |
| − | ::::::::You sound like a [[Cafeteria Christian]], tossing out ''ye are not under law but under grace''. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Trump 2Q2Q]]</sup> 18:39, 2 September 2020 (EDT) | + | :::::::::You sound like a [[Cafeteria Christian]], tossing out ''ye are not under law but under grace''. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Trump 2Q2Q]]</sup> 18:39, 2 September 2020 (EDT) |
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| | ::::::I/S says, "You blasphemously say that the righteous works of God done by Him in and through the willing cooperation of his people doing His good pleasure—His works (not their own)—are filthy rags!!" | | ::::::I/S says, "You blasphemously say that the righteous works of God done by Him in and through the willing cooperation of his people doing His good pleasure—His works (not their own)—are filthy rags!!" |
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| | :::::::[[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Trump 2Q2Q]]</sup> 18:33, 2 September 2020 (EDT) | | :::::::[[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Trump 2Q2Q]]</sup> 18:33, 2 September 2020 (EDT) |
| | ::::::::*Philippians 2:13 - For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.<br>The works of God are not filthy rags. --[[User:IndependentSkeptic|IndependentSkeptic]] ([[User talk:IndependentSkeptic|talk]]) 18:39, 2 September 2020 (EDT) | | ::::::::*Philippians 2:13 - For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.<br>The works of God are not filthy rags. --[[User:IndependentSkeptic|IndependentSkeptic]] ([[User talk:IndependentSkeptic|talk]]) 18:39, 2 September 2020 (EDT) |
| | + | :::::::::That still doesn't make you God; it is fulfillment of Jesus' prophecy, ''and greater works than these'' the fact that God saved another sinner. It is God's doing, not yours or the church's. Give glory to God. |
| | + | :::::::::''I can of my own self do nothing.'' |
| | + | :::::::::''for by grace are ye saved through faith....not of works''. |
| | + | :::::::::''Wherein is boasting?'' [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Trump 2Q2Q]]</sup> 18:44, 2 September 2020 (EDT) |
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| | ::::Hi RobSmith, can you please save these replies as part of debates/disputes for later? As IndependentSkeptic mentioned [[User:Liberaltears/mail#Update:_hospitalization|here]], Dataclarifier's mother (who's in her nineties) had a serious accident earlier today, and while it seems that there wasn't anything that serious, they (especially D.C.) may be in extreme apprehension. Just in case you aren't already, can you please pray for D.C.'s mother to be all well as soon as possible? Thank you! —[[User:Liberaltears|Liberaltears]]<sup>'''''[[User:Liberaltears/mail|May Dataclarifier be well!]] | [[Special:Contributions/Liberaltears|Don't be an anti-Catholic zealot!]]'''''</sup> Wednesday, 15:19, 2 September 2020 (EDT) | | ::::Hi RobSmith, can you please save these replies as part of debates/disputes for later? As IndependentSkeptic mentioned [[User:Liberaltears/mail#Update:_hospitalization|here]], Dataclarifier's mother (who's in her nineties) had a serious accident earlier today, and while it seems that there wasn't anything that serious, they (especially D.C.) may be in extreme apprehension. Just in case you aren't already, can you please pray for D.C.'s mother to be all well as soon as possible? Thank you! —[[User:Liberaltears|Liberaltears]]<sup>'''''[[User:Liberaltears/mail|May Dataclarifier be well!]] | [[Special:Contributions/Liberaltears|Don't be an anti-Catholic zealot!]]'''''</sup> Wednesday, 15:19, 2 September 2020 (EDT) |