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| | ::::::::::Fine <shakes dust from his shoes>. You have chosen law over grace, a curse over salvation. Nuff said. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Trump 2Q2Q]]</sup> 19:19, 2 September 2020 (EDT) | | ::::::::::Fine <shakes dust from his shoes>. You have chosen law over grace, a curse over salvation. Nuff said. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Trump 2Q2Q]]</sup> 19:19, 2 September 2020 (EDT) |
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| − | Being under grace imposes the obligation to do good. See an excellent analysis of RobSmith's fundamental error in this page from the '''''Forerunner Commentary''''', John W. Ritenbaugh together with other contributors, '''Bible Tools: Topical: What The Bible Says About Obligation''' https://www.bibletools.org/index.cfm/fuseaction/Topical.show/RTD/cgg/ID/126/Obligation.htm <br>Both Dataclarifier and I were absolutely delighted with it. The Forerunner Commentary exists online (exclusively) at BibleTools.org. The Forerunner Commentary is comprised of material taken from articles, Bible studies, booklets, and sermons produced by ''the Church of the Great God (C.G.G.)'' since 1992.<br> --[[User:IndependentSkeptic|IndependentSkeptic]] ([[User talk:IndependentSkeptic|talk]]) 19:44, 2 September 2020 (EDT) | + | Being under grace imposes the obligation to do good. See an excellent analysis of RobSmith's fundamental error in this page from the '''''Forerunner Commentary''''', John W. Ritenbaugh together with other contributors, '''Bible Tools: Topical: What The Bible Says About Obligation''' https://www.bibletools.org/index.cfm/fuseaction/Topical.show/RTD/cgg/ID/126/Obligation.htm <br>Both Dataclarifier and I were absolutely delighted with it. The Forerunner Commentary exists online (exclusively) at BibleTools.org. The Forerunner Commentary is comprised of material taken from articles, Bible studies, booklets, and sermons produced by ''the Church of the Great God (C.G.G.)'' since 1992. It's not Catholic, but the biblical doctrine of the ''Forerunner Commentary'' bears a strong likeness to the teaching of the [http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc/p3s1c3a1.htm#1950 ''Catechism of the Catholic Church'' 1950-1986 '''The Moral Law''']. They are not far from the kingdom of God. <br> --[[User:IndependentSkeptic|IndependentSkeptic]] ([[User talk:IndependentSkeptic|talk]]) 19:44, 2 September 2020 (EDT) |
| | :*'''1 Timothy 1:9''' - ''the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners'' | | :*'''1 Timothy 1:9''' - ''the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners'' |
| | :If you are under law, you are without Christ. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Trump 2Q2Q]]</sup> 20:32, 2 September 2020 (EDT) | | :If you are under law, you are without Christ. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Trump 2Q2Q]]</sup> 20:32, 2 September 2020 (EDT) |
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| | :::We both came to the knowledge of the truth by seeing clearly what the Bible teaches about the Catholic Church. It's because we studied the Bible and read actual Catholic doctrine for comparison that we know Catholicism is the fullness of the truth of the Christian Gospel of Salvation in Christ alone through his body the Church and that it is the most biblical Church on the face of the earth. Our search is ended. Now we live it. Our souls have found rest. And we shall never cease proclaiming the truth of God. We've done that here. Others will too. So we will not have to any more on Conservapedia. We're getting off. We totally entrust you to God. He'll deal with you. In surprising ways. ''Better believe it!'' God bless. --[[User:IndependentSkeptic|IndependentSkeptic]] ([[User talk:IndependentSkeptic|talk]]) 21:06, 2 September 2020 (EDT) | | :::We both came to the knowledge of the truth by seeing clearly what the Bible teaches about the Catholic Church. It's because we studied the Bible and read actual Catholic doctrine for comparison that we know Catholicism is the fullness of the truth of the Christian Gospel of Salvation in Christ alone through his body the Church and that it is the most biblical Church on the face of the earth. Our search is ended. Now we live it. Our souls have found rest. And we shall never cease proclaiming the truth of God. We've done that here. Others will too. So we will not have to any more on Conservapedia. We're getting off. We totally entrust you to God. He'll deal with you. In surprising ways. ''Better believe it!'' God bless. --[[User:IndependentSkeptic|IndependentSkeptic]] ([[User talk:IndependentSkeptic|talk]]) 21:06, 2 September 2020 (EDT) |
| | ::::We've been over this. Salvation is in Christ, not in a church or church membership. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Trump 2Q2Q]]</sup> 21:35, 2 September 2020 (EDT) | | ::::We've been over this. Salvation is in Christ, not in a church or church membership. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Trump 2Q2Q]]</sup> 21:35, 2 September 2020 (EDT) |
| | + | :::::God lives and dwells and works in and through the Catholic Church. Yes there are weeds among the wheat. But God remains holy, and he has sanctified his church, making her holy and without blemish, and those who are united to him by his grace he makes partakers of his own divine nature, making them holy. Ephesians 5:21-27; 2 Peter 1:3-11. --[[User:IndependentSkeptic|IndependentSkeptic]] ([[User talk:IndependentSkeptic|talk]]) 21:49, 2 September 2020 (EDT) |
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| | ::::Hi RobSmith, can you please save these replies as part of debates/disputes for later? As IndependentSkeptic mentioned [[User:Liberaltears/mail#Update:_hospitalization|here]], Dataclarifier's mother (who's in her nineties) had a serious accident earlier today, and while it seems that there wasn't anything that serious, they (especially D.C.) may be in extreme apprehension. Just in case you aren't already, can you please pray for D.C.'s mother to be all well as soon as possible? Thank you! —[[User:Liberaltears|Liberaltears]]<sup>'''''[[User:Liberaltears/mail|May Dataclarifier be well!]] | [[Special:Contributions/Liberaltears|Don't be an anti-Catholic zealot!]]'''''</sup> Wednesday, 15:19, 2 September 2020 (EDT) | | ::::Hi RobSmith, can you please save these replies as part of debates/disputes for later? As IndependentSkeptic mentioned [[User:Liberaltears/mail#Update:_hospitalization|here]], Dataclarifier's mother (who's in her nineties) had a serious accident earlier today, and while it seems that there wasn't anything that serious, they (especially D.C.) may be in extreme apprehension. Just in case you aren't already, can you please pray for D.C.'s mother to be all well as soon as possible? Thank you! —[[User:Liberaltears|Liberaltears]]<sup>'''''[[User:Liberaltears/mail|May Dataclarifier be well!]] | [[Special:Contributions/Liberaltears|Don't be an anti-Catholic zealot!]]'''''</sup> Wednesday, 15:19, 2 September 2020 (EDT) |