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| | :Vanity of vanities. The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom. I boldened a few sections here, but there's much more. And we also have to consider ''I will remember their sins no more'' (Hebrews 8:12, 10:17), yet like Manasseh, Solomon's sins are embalmed into the bible. | | :Vanity of vanities. The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom. I boldened a few sections here, but there's much more. And we also have to consider ''I will remember their sins no more'' (Hebrews 8:12, 10:17), yet like Manasseh, Solomon's sins are embalmed into the bible. |
| | :Now, I'm not ready to offer a definitive conclusion yet as to whether Solomon was saved. But in studying this brief excerpt I superficially find two weaknesses in Roman Catholic doctrine: (1) a misunderstanding of 1 Corinthians 3:15 which we've addressed in debates elsewhere, and (2) verse 21 above. There seems to be a whole lot of ''glorying in men'' in Roman Catholic doctrine, beginning with the claim that Mary is a "Mediatrix" given the fact that we are sexless in the resurrection, and much of the glorying in men you posted right here in this discussion thread. | | :Now, I'm not ready to offer a definitive conclusion yet as to whether Solomon was saved. But in studying this brief excerpt I superficially find two weaknesses in Roman Catholic doctrine: (1) a misunderstanding of 1 Corinthians 3:15 which we've addressed in debates elsewhere, and (2) verse 21 above. There seems to be a whole lot of ''glorying in men'' in Roman Catholic doctrine, beginning with the claim that Mary is a "Mediatrix" given the fact that we are sexless in the resurrection, and much of the glorying in men you posted right here in this discussion thread. |
| − | :But let's not get sidetracked from the main question. I'm saying you might have reconsider what ''he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire'' means using the internal consistencies of the bible without any external sources, such as catechism. (At the same time, any scripture may have more than one application, so this does not dismiss your understanding of Purgatory completely, but it should open your eyes to the fact that there are other internal applications of ''he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire'' and your understanding is of 1 Cor. 3:15 is not definitive. | + | :But let's not get sidetracked from the main question. I'm saying you might have reconsider what ''he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire'' means using the internal consistencies of the bible without any external sources, such as catechism. (At the same time, any scripture may have more than one application, so this does not dismiss your understanding of Purgatory completely, but it should open your eyes to the fact that there are other internal applications of ''he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire'' and your understanding is of 1 Cor. 3:15 is not definitive.) |
| | :We're only scratching the surface here of an important question that I believe God wants any serious bible student to study. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Trump 2Q2Q]]</sup> 04:52, 3 September 2020 (EDT) | | :We're only scratching the surface here of an important question that I believe God wants any serious bible student to study. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Trump 2Q2Q]]</sup> 04:52, 3 September 2020 (EDT) |
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| | + | :And brief after thought about glorying in men: ''In every house there are two kinds of vessels, vessels of honor and vessels of dishonor''. Translation: Two kinds of vessels, dinner plates and piss pots. Maybe that's all Solomon was, a piss pot. The more important question is, What do you want to be in the Lord's House, a vessel of honor or vessel of dishoner? It's a choice each individual believer has to make., [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Trump 2Q2Q]]</sup> 05:09, 3 September 2020 (EDT) |
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| | ::::Hi RobSmith, can you please save these replies as part of debates/disputes for later? As IndependentSkeptic mentioned [[User:Liberaltears/mail#Update:_hospitalization|here]], Dataclarifier's mother (who's in her nineties) had a serious accident earlier today, and while it seems that there wasn't anything that serious, they (especially D.C.) may be in extreme apprehension. Just in case you aren't already, can you please pray for D.C.'s mother to be all well as soon as possible? Thank you! —[[User:Liberaltears|Liberaltears]]<sup>'''''[[User:Liberaltears/mail|May Dataclarifier be well!]] | [[Special:Contributions/Liberaltears|Don't be an anti-Catholic zealot!]]'''''</sup> Wednesday, 15:19, 2 September 2020 (EDT) | | ::::Hi RobSmith, can you please save these replies as part of debates/disputes for later? As IndependentSkeptic mentioned [[User:Liberaltears/mail#Update:_hospitalization|here]], Dataclarifier's mother (who's in her nineties) had a serious accident earlier today, and while it seems that there wasn't anything that serious, they (especially D.C.) may be in extreme apprehension. Just in case you aren't already, can you please pray for D.C.'s mother to be all well as soon as possible? Thank you! —[[User:Liberaltears|Liberaltears]]<sup>'''''[[User:Liberaltears/mail|May Dataclarifier be well!]] | [[Special:Contributions/Liberaltears|Don't be an anti-Catholic zealot!]]'''''</sup> Wednesday, 15:19, 2 September 2020 (EDT) |