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:And brief after thought about glorying in men: ''In every house there are two kinds of vessels, vessels of honor and vessels of dishonor''. Translation: Two kinds of vessels, dinner plates and piss pots. Maybe that's all Solomon was, a piss pot. The more important question is, What do you want to be in the Lord's House, a vessel of honor or vessel of dishoner?  It's a choice each individual believer has to make., [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Trump 2Q2Q]]</sup> 05:09, 3 September 2020 (EDT)
 
:And brief after thought about glorying in men: ''In every house there are two kinds of vessels, vessels of honor and vessels of dishonor''. Translation: Two kinds of vessels, dinner plates and piss pots. Maybe that's all Solomon was, a piss pot. The more important question is, What do you want to be in the Lord's House, a vessel of honor or vessel of dishoner?  It's a choice each individual believer has to make., [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Trump 2Q2Q]]</sup> 05:09, 3 September 2020 (EDT)
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::Quote: "'''''Such underhanded and deceitful tactics to pervert God's word and impugn a preacher of the gospel'''''". Apparently from the context, you claim or imply that you are "a preacher of the gospel", a title applied by you to yourself without having explicitly cited any recognized credentials on any page of Conservapedia (as far as I know; I haven't seen any, nor has Dataclarifier—I asked). For example, NishantXavier has said that he has seminary training. Dataclarifier has explicitly stated that he is not a Catholic apologist, only a "Bible apologist", as an informed and believing Bible Christian ,"who happens to be Catholic". <br> So we ask you RobSmith: Have you graduated from a seminary? Have you been ordained? Have you submitted yourself to the laying on of a bishop's hands or the hands of the presbytery or the hands of accredited apostles? (I'm looking at 2 Timothy 1:6; Acts 13:1-3; Acts 14:23; 1&nbsp;Corinthians 9:14.) Even Paul, as Saul of Tarsus, was already an ordained and accredited rabbi with authority to preach in the synagogues of the Jews, even Paul himself, who was appointed an apostle by Christ Himself on the road to Damascus, was formally ordained by the laying on of the hands of the prophets and teachers when they were worshiping the Lord and fasting before he was "sent forth" with Barnabas. That tradition of worship and fasting and laying on of hands to ordain priests as acknowledged "preachers of the gospel" has continued from the time of the apostles to the present day by churches claiming [[apostolic succession]].
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::So we ask:
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::*Are you acknowledged by formally ordained and accredited preachers of the gospel as an officially accredited and acknowledged preacher of the gospel in any Christian church or sect or denomination?
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::*Are you salaried by any congregation of the people of God as an acknowledged preacher of the gospel?
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::'''Or''' are you self-appointed without "the laying on of the hands of the elders"? <br>You have never directly said one way or the other. Declare yourself. What are your credentials? <br>--[[User:IndependentSkeptic|IndependentSkeptic]] ([[User talk:IndependentSkeptic|talk]]) 10:16, 3 September 2020 (EDT)
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::::Hi RobSmith, can you please save these replies as part of debates/disputes for later? As IndependentSkeptic mentioned [[User:Liberaltears/mail#Update:_hospitalization|here]], Dataclarifier's mother (who's in her nineties) had a serious accident earlier today, and while it seems that there wasn't anything that serious, they (especially D.C.) may be in extreme apprehension. Just in case you aren't already, can you please pray for D.C.'s mother to be all well as soon as possible? Thank you! —[[User:Liberaltears|Liberaltears]]<sup>'''''[[User:Liberaltears/mail|May Dataclarifier be well!]] | [[Special:Contributions/Liberaltears|Don't be an anti-Catholic zealot!]]'''''</sup> Wednesday, 15:19, 2 September 2020 (EDT)
 
::::Hi RobSmith, can you please save these replies as part of debates/disputes for later? As IndependentSkeptic mentioned [[User:Liberaltears/mail#Update:_hospitalization|here]], Dataclarifier's mother (who's in her nineties) had a serious accident earlier today, and while it seems that there wasn't anything that serious, they (especially D.C.) may be in extreme apprehension. Just in case you aren't already, can you please pray for D.C.'s mother to be all well as soon as possible? Thank you! —[[User:Liberaltears|Liberaltears]]<sup>'''''[[User:Liberaltears/mail|May Dataclarifier be well!]] | [[Special:Contributions/Liberaltears|Don't be an anti-Catholic zealot!]]'''''</sup> Wednesday, 15:19, 2 September 2020 (EDT)
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