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| | *'''Galatians 3:10''' - ''all who rely on works of the law are under a curse''<ref>https://biblehub.com/galatians/3-10.htm</ref> | | *'''Galatians 3:10''' - ''all who rely on works of the law are under a curse''<ref>https://biblehub.com/galatians/3-10.htm</ref> |
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| | :::Yes. The works of the law of Moses. Not the works of righteous obedience in holiness, including respect for authority, as the Bible says, and the work that Christ Jesus Himself does in the sacraments ordained by Christ in the church as fountains of his grace flowing from his righteous sacrifice of his blood in the Holy Spirit on the cross, works He Himself does through the ministry of the church He built, led into all the truth forever by the Spirit of truth. | | :::Yes. The works of the law of Moses. Not the works of righteous obedience in holiness, including respect for authority, as the Bible says, and the work that Christ Jesus Himself does in the sacraments ordained by Christ in the church as fountains of his grace flowing from his righteous sacrifice of his blood in the Holy Spirit on the cross, works He Himself does through the ministry of the church He built, led into all the truth forever by the Spirit of truth. |
| | :{{quotation|'''CCC 1076''' In this age of the Church '''Christ now lives and acts in and with his Church''', in a new way appropriate to this new age. '''<big>He</big> acts through the sacraments''' in what the common Tradition of the East and the West calls "the sacramental economy"; this is '''the communication (or "dispensation") of the fruits of Christ's Paschal mystery''' in the celebration of the Church's "sacramental" liturgy. <br> — http://scborromeo.org/ccc/p2s1.htm (''<small>boldface added</small>'') }} | | :{{quotation|'''CCC 1076''' In this age of the Church '''Christ now lives and acts in and with his Church''', in a new way appropriate to this new age. '''<big>He</big> acts through the sacraments''' in what the common Tradition of the East and the West calls "the sacramental economy"; this is '''the communication (or "dispensation") of the fruits of Christ's Paschal mystery''' in the celebration of the Church's "sacramental" liturgy. <br> — http://scborromeo.org/ccc/p2s1.htm (''<small>boldface added</small>'') }} |
| | :::--[[User:IndependentSkeptic|IndependentSkeptic]] ([[User talk:IndependentSkeptic|talk]]) 12:20, 28 August 2020 (EDT) | | :::--[[User:IndependentSkeptic|IndependentSkeptic]] ([[User talk:IndependentSkeptic|talk]]) 12:20, 28 August 2020 (EDT) |
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| | *'''CCC 2068''' - "The [[Council of Trent]] teaches that '''the [[Ten Commandments]] are obligatory''' for Christians and that the justified man is still bound to keep them; the [[Second Vatican Council]] confirms: "The bishops, successors of the apostles, receive from the Lord . . . the mission of teaching all peoples, and of preaching the Gospel to every creature, so that all men may attain salvation through faith, Baptism '''and the observance of the Commandments."'''<ref>http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc/para/2068.htm</ref> | | *'''CCC 2068''' - "The [[Council of Trent]] teaches that '''the [[Ten Commandments]] are obligatory''' for Christians and that the justified man is still bound to keep them; the [[Second Vatican Council]] confirms: "The bishops, successors of the apostles, receive from the Lord . . . the mission of teaching all peoples, and of preaching the Gospel to every creature, so that all men may attain salvation through faith, Baptism '''and the observance of the Commandments."'''<ref>http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc/para/2068.htm</ref> |
| | :Hence, ''per'' the Bible, adherents and practitioners of the Roman Catholic faith are under a curse and not redeemed by the blood of Jesus.<ref>https://biblehub.com/galatians/3-13.htm</ref> [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Trump 2Q2Q]]</sup> 12:33, 28 August 2020 (EDT) | | :Hence, ''per'' the Bible, adherents and practitioners of the Roman Catholic faith are under a curse and not redeemed by the blood of Jesus.<ref>https://biblehub.com/galatians/3-13.htm</ref> [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Trump 2Q2Q]]</sup> 12:33, 28 August 2020 (EDT) |
| | *'''Isaiah 28:14''' - '' '''we have made lies our refuge, and under falsehood have we hid ourselves''' | | *'''Isaiah 28:14''' - '' '''we have made lies our refuge, and under falsehood have we hid ourselves''' |
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| | ::Isaiah is speaking of the disobedient Israelites who refused to respect and reverently obey the Covenant of the Lord. His word cannot be applied to the church Jesus built, against which the gates of hell shall never prevail and in which Jesus Himself and the Holy Spirit dwell together leading into all the truth. | | ::Isaiah is speaking of the disobedient Israelites who refused to respect and reverently obey the Covenant of the Lord. His word cannot be applied to the church Jesus built, against which the gates of hell shall never prevail and in which Jesus Himself and the Holy Spirit dwell together leading into all the truth. |
| | ::'''CCC 1088''' "To accomplish so great a work" ... "Christ is always present in his Church, especially in her liturgical celebrations. He is present in the Sacrifice of the Mass not only in the person of his minister, 'the same now offering, through the ministry of priests, who formerly offered himself on the cross,' but especially in the Eucharistic species. By his power he is present in the sacraments so that when anybody baptizes, it is really Christ himself who baptizes. He is present in his word since it is he himself who speaks when the holy Scriptures are read in the Church. Lastly, he is present when the Church prays and sings, for he has promised 'where two or three are gathered together in my name there am I in the midst of them."' | | ::'''CCC 1088''' "To accomplish so great a work" ... "Christ is always present in his Church, especially in her liturgical celebrations. He is present in the Sacrifice of the Mass not only in the person of his minister, 'the same now offering, through the ministry of priests, who formerly offered himself on the cross,' but especially in the Eucharistic species. By his power he is present in the sacraments so that when anybody baptizes, it is really Christ himself who baptizes. He is present in his word since it is he himself who speaks when the holy Scriptures are read in the Church. Lastly, he is present when the Church prays and sings, for he has promised 'where two or three are gathered together in my name there am I in the midst of them."' |