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:::As always, misleading and false. They, like you, were taught from the Bible in their religion classes—''unless they refused to listen, even running away to go join a gang''. That teaching from the Bible in religion class by the sisters and brothers and priests was and is the pedagogy of the parochial schools since the beginning of the 19th century, so they ''were'' taught the Bible as the word of God and the whole faith of the Church as established by God with authority. Private reading leads to private interpretation. That's dangerous. It can lead to destruction and being led into error by lawless men (those who twist the doctrines of the scriptures and lean on their own understanding), and into falling from '''''security in holding to the faith by the knowledge of Jesus Christ''''', as Peter warned (2 Peter 1:20–2:3; 3:15-18). The devil quotes scripture too. That's why they were told not to read the Bible (for themselves). But anyone who really wants to know the truth will finally find it, just as we did, in the Catholic Church, and find the way of holiness by "partaking of the divine nature" (2 Peter 1:3-11—''read it!''). And anyone among us who leads a sinner back from the error of his way will save a soul from death. --[[User:IndependentSkeptic|IndependentSkeptic]] ([[User talk:IndependentSkeptic|talk]]) 12:40, 4 September 2020 (EDT)

:::As always, misleading and false. They, like you, were taught from the Bible in their religion classes—''unless they refused to listen, even running away to go join a gang''. That teaching from the Bible in religion class by the sisters and brothers and priests was and is the pedagogy of the parochial schools since the beginning of the 19th century, so they ''were'' taught the Bible as the word of God and the whole faith of the Church as established by God with authority. Private reading leads to private interpretation. That's dangerous. It can lead to destruction and being led into error by lawless men (those who twist the doctrines of the scriptures and lean on their own understanding), and into falling from '''''security in holding to the faith by the knowledge of Jesus Christ''''', as Peter warned (2 Peter 1:20–2:3; 3:15-18). The devil quotes scripture too. That's why they were told not to read the Bible (for themselves). But anyone who really wants to know the truth will finally find it, just as we did, in the Catholic Church, and find the way of holiness by "partaking of the divine nature" (2 Peter 1:3-11—''read it!''). And anyone among us who leads a sinner back from the error of his way will save a soul from death. --[[User:IndependentSkeptic|IndependentSkeptic]] ([[User talk:IndependentSkeptic|talk]]) 12:40, 4 September 2020 (EDT)

::::'''''Stop continually provoking more debate on this talk page''. This is not the place. You locked the page to prevent more debate, but you perpetuate it here. <br><big>You have our answer. That should have been enough!</big> <br>But you continue to spam more distortions and misrepresentations that beg for correction. You just won't let it lay down and rest. You just have to have the [[Last wordism|Last word]] with more unjustified [[libel]] and misquoting scripture out of context. <br> And I quote: "At worst, it''' [having the last word] '''reflects a lack of personal responsibility or bullying, which is a characteristic of wrongdoing or sinfulness."''' <br> '''''Enough!''' --[[User:IndependentSkeptic|IndependentSkeptic]] ([[User talk:IndependentSkeptic|talk]]) 12:56, 4 September 2020 (EDT)

::::'''''Stop continually provoking more debate on this talk page''. This is not the place. You locked the page to prevent more debate, but you perpetuate it here. <br><big>You have our answer. That should have been enough!</big> <br>But you continue to spam more distortions and misrepresentations that beg for correction. You just won't let it lay down and rest. You just have to have the [[Last wordism|Last word]] with more unjustified [[libel]] and misquoting scripture out of context. <br> And I quote: "At worst, it''' [having the last word] '''reflects a lack of personal responsibility or bullying, which is a characteristic of wrongdoing or sinfulness."''' <br> '''''Enough!''' --[[User:IndependentSkeptic|IndependentSkeptic]] ([[User talk:IndependentSkeptic|talk]]) 12:56, 4 September 2020 (EDT)<br>We add that both Dataclarifier and I independently made inquiries and found that without exception '''a Bible was provided as a fundamental required teaching resource at every desk in '''every''' parochial school''', and in the religion classes the teachers and students together read from both it and the catechism. --[[User:IndependentSkeptic|IndependentSkeptic]] ([[User talk:IndependentSkeptic|talk]]) 13:27, 4 September 2020 (EDT)

:::(ec) I was not taught the Bible in 8 years of religion classes - I was taught catechism. And so were they in jail. As young people, me and the prisoners in the ministry felt no need to ''hunger and thirst after righteousness'', since catechism taught us we were already adopted into God's family, and only had to follow church law to maintain it.  None of this is biblical.  

:::(ec) I was not taught the Bible in 8 years of religion classes - I was taught catechism. And so were they in jail. As young people, me and the prisoners in the ministry felt no need to ''hunger and thirst after righteousness'', since catechism taught us we were already adopted into God's family, and only had to follow church law to maintain it.  None of this is biblical.  

:::''Ye are of your father the devil.'' Repent.  

:::''Ye are of your father the devil.'' Repent.