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Talk:Debate: Have the gates of hell prevailed against the church Jesus founded on a rock, when He Himself said it could never happen? Did Christ who cannot lie fail to fulfill his promise? (view source)
Revision as of 19:04, September 4, 2020
, 19:04, September 4, 2020→Misleading RobSmith commentary - 1 Kings 11:12-13 "turn away" - and "preacher of the gospel" applied to himself 2Tm 2:7; 2 Co 10:14; 2Tm 5:17-18
::''Or conflicts with being brainwashed by once saved always saved.'' --[[User:IndependentSkeptic|IndependentSkeptic]] ([[User talk:IndependentSkeptic|talk]]) 14:49, 4 September 2020 (EDT)
::''Or conflicts with being brainwashed by once saved always saved.'' --[[User:IndependentSkeptic|IndependentSkeptic]] ([[User talk:IndependentSkeptic|talk]]) 14:49, 4 September 2020 (EDT)
:::"''At what point''"? '''I've already told you!''' By the washing of water with the word. He saved us by the water-washing of regeneration. Baptism saves you now. His righteousness is imputed to us by his grace. And also when we're brought back from the error of our way. When we confess our sins. He is faithful and just to forgive us. And again, His righteousness is imputed to us by his grace. Read the ''Catechism of the Catholic Church''. Look at all the scripture cited in it. The correct understanding and interpretation of the Bible according to the mind of Christ is explained in it. Repent and come to the truth. --I/S and DC --[[User:IndependentSkeptic|IndependentSkeptic]] ([[User talk:IndependentSkeptic|talk]]) 14:59, 4 September 2020 (EDT)<br>We're done here. --[[User:IndependentSkeptic|IndependentSkeptic]] ([[User talk:IndependentSkeptic|talk]]) 15:02, 4 September 2020 (EDT)
:::"''At what point''"? '''I've already told you!''' By the washing of water with the word. He saved us by the water-washing of regeneration. Baptism saves you now. His righteousness is imputed to us by his grace. And also when we're brought back from the error of our way. When we confess our sins. He is faithful and just to forgive us. And again, His righteousness is imputed to us by his grace. Read the ''Catechism of the Catholic Church''. Look at all the scripture cited in it. The correct understanding and interpretation of the Bible according to the mind of Christ is explained in it. Repent and come to the truth. --I/S and DC --[[User:IndependentSkeptic|IndependentSkeptic]] ([[User talk:IndependentSkeptic|talk]]) 14:59, 4 September 2020 (EDT)<br>We're done here. --[[User:IndependentSkeptic|IndependentSkeptic]] ([[User talk:IndependentSkeptic|talk]]) 15:02, 4 September 2020 (EDT)
::::We've debunked that bullrot a thousand times. You loose Christ when you take a crap after communion. So his righteousness has to be re-imputed again through the wash, rinse repeat cycle of sin, confession, communion. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Free Kyle!]]</sup> 15:04, 4 September 2020 (EDT)
:::(ec) I was not taught the Bible in 8 years of religion classes - I was taught catechism. And so were they in jail. As young people, me and the prisoners in the ministry felt no need to ''hunger and thirst after righteousness'', since catechism taught us we were already adopted into God's family, and only had to follow church law to maintain it. None of this is biblical.
:::(ec) I was not taught the Bible in 8 years of religion classes - I was taught catechism. And so were they in jail. As young people, me and the prisoners in the ministry felt no need to ''hunger and thirst after righteousness'', since catechism taught us we were already adopted into God's family, and only had to follow church law to maintain it. None of this is biblical.