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::::::Consistent [[misrepresentation]] and [[ignorance]]. The presence of Christ passes from the [[Host (Communion)|Host]] into the body and soul of one who has devoutly received Communion the moment the Host ceases by dissolving to be the form of bread. <br> '''A fundamental principle''' of evaluating and discerning any such interpretation of Catholic [[doctrine]] and [[dogma]], like this one, or any interpretation that appears to be absurd, or evil, or brings reproach on the Church by [[libel]] or [[scandal]], is not Catholic doctrine but [[error]] based on [[falsehood]]s unworthy of belief. Do not rely on '''enemies''' of Catholicism to tell the truth about Catholic belief and practice. '''Almost the whole entirety of what RobSmith has been saying and implying about the Catholic Church and Catholic doctrine and dogma and the ''Catechism of the Catholic Church'' is a lie. He is not telling you the truth.''' We know this. Because we know both the Bible '''''and''''' the Catechism. And what he's been saying is not actual Catholicism. As Bible Christians who know the Bible we know this for a fact. From this we know that the preaching of the Church is the doctrine of God. Because it's biblical. To speak against the doctrine is to speak against the Bible and against the Holy Spirit, Almighty God, with us for ever guiding us into all the truth for ever. --[[User:IndependentSkeptic|IndependentSkeptic]] ([[User talk:IndependentSkeptic|talk]]) 15:38, 4 September 2020 (EDT)
 
::::::Consistent [[misrepresentation]] and [[ignorance]]. The presence of Christ passes from the [[Host (Communion)|Host]] into the body and soul of one who has devoutly received Communion the moment the Host ceases by dissolving to be the form of bread. <br> '''A fundamental principle''' of evaluating and discerning any such interpretation of Catholic [[doctrine]] and [[dogma]], like this one, or any interpretation that appears to be absurd, or evil, or brings reproach on the Church by [[libel]] or [[scandal]], is not Catholic doctrine but [[error]] based on [[falsehood]]s unworthy of belief. Do not rely on '''enemies''' of Catholicism to tell the truth about Catholic belief and practice. '''Almost the whole entirety of what RobSmith has been saying and implying about the Catholic Church and Catholic doctrine and dogma and the ''Catechism of the Catholic Church'' is a lie. He is not telling you the truth.''' We know this. Because we know both the Bible '''''and''''' the Catechism. And what he's been saying is not actual Catholicism. As Bible Christians who know the Bible we know this for a fact. From this we know that the preaching of the Church is the doctrine of God. Because it's biblical. To speak against the doctrine is to speak against the Bible and against the Holy Spirit, Almighty God, with us for ever guiding us into all the truth for ever. --[[User:IndependentSkeptic|IndependentSkeptic]] ([[User talk:IndependentSkeptic|talk]]) 15:38, 4 September 2020 (EDT)
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:::::(ec) Hey, I asked a simple question. Is the righteous of Christ imputed during the Eucharist?
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:::::(ec) Hey, I asked a simple question. Is the righteousness of Christ imputed during the Eucharist?
    
:::::This stuff gets pretty confusing pretty quickly. Catholic doctrine says the Holy Spirit is given to infants at baptism -before the righteousness of Christ is imputed?
 
:::::This stuff gets pretty confusing pretty quickly. Catholic doctrine says the Holy Spirit is given to infants at baptism -before the righteousness of Christ is imputed?
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