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Talk:Debate: Have the gates of hell prevailed against the church Jesus founded on a rock, when He Himself said it could never happen? Did Christ who cannot lie fail to fulfill his promise? (view source)
Revision as of 20:43, September 4, 2020
, 20:43, September 4, 2020→a bible in Catholic schools: after thought following "final edit" - well, that's it - we told the truth and now leave it at that in this debate
:There's plenty of them - Protestants. Most who received the word as a child have a conscience and more easily convicted of sin. Roman Catholics, by contrast, have a longer road to travel, first having to unlearn all the garbage they were taught. So it begins with having a pure, genuine ''hunger and thirst for righteousness'', which conflicts with being brainwashed that they don't need it cause they were already baptized as an infant.
:There's plenty of them - Protestants. Most who received the word as a child have a conscience and more easily convicted of sin. Roman Catholics, by contrast, have a longer road to travel, first having to unlearn all the garbage they were taught. So it begins with having a pure, genuine ''hunger and thirst for righteousness'', which conflicts with being brainwashed that they don't need it cause they were already baptized as an infant.
:So at what point is the righteousness of Christ imputed? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Free Kyle!]]</sup> 14:45, 4 September 2020 (EDT)
:So at what point is the righteousness of Christ imputed? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Free Kyle!]]</sup> 14:45, 4 September 2020 (EDT)
::''Or conflicts with being brainwashed by once saved always saved.'' --[[User:IndependentSkeptic|IndependentSkeptic]] ([[User talk:IndependentSkeptic|talk]]) 14:49, 4 September 2020 (EDT)
::''It also conflicts with being brainwashed by once saved always saved.'' --[[User:IndependentSkeptic|IndependentSkeptic]] ([[User talk:IndependentSkeptic|talk]]) 14:49, 4 September 2020 (EDT)
:::"''At what point''"? '''I've already told you!''' By the washing of water with the word. He saved us by the water-washing of regeneration. Baptism saves you now. His righteousness is imputed to us by his grace. And also when we're brought back from the error of our way. When we confess our sins. He is faithful and just to forgive us. And again, His righteousness is imputed to us by his grace. Read the ''Catechism of the Catholic Church''. Look at all the scripture cited in it. The correct understanding and interpretation of the Bible according to the mind of Christ is explained in it. Repent and come to the truth. --I/S and DC --[[User:IndependentSkeptic|IndependentSkeptic]] ([[User talk:IndependentSkeptic|talk]]) 14:59, 4 September 2020 (EDT)<br>We're done here. --[[User:IndependentSkeptic|IndependentSkeptic]] ([[User talk:IndependentSkeptic|talk]]) 15:02, 4 September 2020 (EDT)
:::"''At what point''"? '''I've already told you!''' By the washing of water with the word. He saved us by the water-washing of regeneration. Baptism saves you now. His righteousness is imputed to us by his grace. And also when we're brought back from the error of our way. When we confess our sins. He is faithful and just to forgive us. And again, His righteousness is imputed to us by his grace. Read the ''Catechism of the Catholic Church''. Look at all the scripture cited in it. The correct understanding and interpretation of the Bible according to the mind of Christ is explained in it. Repent and come to the truth. --I/S and DC --[[User:IndependentSkeptic|IndependentSkeptic]] ([[User talk:IndependentSkeptic|talk]]) 14:59, 4 September 2020 (EDT)<br>We're done here. --[[User:IndependentSkeptic|IndependentSkeptic]] ([[User talk:IndependentSkeptic|talk]]) 15:02, 4 September 2020 (EDT)