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Debate: Have the gates of hell prevailed against the church Jesus founded on a rock, when He Himself said it could never happen? Did Christ who cannot lie fail to fulfill his promise? (view source)
Revision as of 12:05, September 22, 2020
, 12:05, September 22, 2020→One mediator
*'''2 Corinthians 13:1''' - ''This is the third time I am coming to you. Every charge must be established by the evidence of two or three witnesses.''
*'''2 Corinthians 13:1''' - ''This is the third time I am coming to you. Every charge must be established by the evidence of two or three witnesses.''
*'''1 Timothy 2:5''' - ''there is one God and '''one mediator between God and mankind,''' the man Christ Jesus''
*'''1 Timothy 2:5''' - ''there is one God and '''one mediator between God and mankind,''' the man Christ Jesus''
:Official Roman Catholic teaching supplants the bible in authority (Catholic teaching believes :God's word is "evolving"), says
:Official Roman Catholic teaching supplants the bible in authority (Catholic teaching believes God's word is "evolving"), says
*'''CCC 1456''' - "When Christ's faithful strive to confess all the sins that they can remember, they undoubtedly place all of them before the divine mercy for pardon. But those who fail to do so and knowingly withhold some, place nothing before the divine goodness '''for remission through the <u>mediation of the priest</u>'''".<ref>https://www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/p2s2c2a4.htm#1456</ref>
*'''CCC 1456''' - "When Christ's faithful strive to confess all the sins that they can remember, they undoubtedly place all of them before the divine mercy for pardon. But those who fail to do so and knowingly withhold some, place nothing before the divine goodness '''for remission through the <u>mediation of the priest</u>'''".<ref>https://www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/p2s2c2a4.htm#1456</ref>
:Jesus says in the resurrection we are sexless:
:Jesus says in the resurrection we are sexless:
*'''CCC 969''' - "the Blessed Virgin is invoked in the Church under the titles of Advocate, Helper, Benefactress, and '''Mediatrix'''."<ref>http://www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/p123a9p6.htm#969</ref>
*'''CCC 969''' - "the Blessed Virgin is invoked in the Church under the titles of Advocate, Helper, Benefactress, and '''Mediatrix'''."<ref>http://www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/p123a9p6.htm#969</ref>
*'''Isaiah 28:14''' - '' '''we have made lies our refuge, and under falsehood have we hid ourselves'''
*'''Isaiah 28:14''' - '' '''we have made lies our refuge, and under falsehood have we hid ourselves'''
==The law is laid down not for the innocent but for the lawless===
*'''1 Timothy 1:6-7''' - ''Some people have deviated from these and turned to meaningless talk, desiring to be teachers of the law, without understanding either what they are saying or the things about which they make assertions. Now we know that the law is good, if one uses it legitimately. This means understanding that '''the law is laid down not for the innocent''' but for the lawless and disobedient''
*'''Romans 8:1''' - ''There is therefore no condemantion to them who are in Christ Jesus''
Note: "disobedient" in Timothy refers to those who do not trust God (without faith), and not to naughty children, outlaws, and gangsters who deserve a spanking and jail time. To be without condemnation is to be innocent. Christians are not under law but under grace. The law cannot make a person just, rightous, and acceptable to God. Only humbling our [[pride]], thinking that we can make ourselves pleasing to God, and accepting the finished work of Christ, makes us acceptable.
*'''''desiring to be teachers of the law, without understanding either what they are saying or the things about which they make assertions.'''''
Bingo. This is the flaw of those who preach catechism and Roman church "authority". [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Free Kyle!]]</sup> 08:05, 22 September 2020 (EDT)
===Salvation by grace===
===Salvation by grace===