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::It's hard to condense a complex position into a short phrase, but it really seems obvious to me that if one wanted to pick short, simple names for the factions, those names would be "pro-abortion" and "anti-abortion." Now, before you jump all over me ''of course'' "pro-abortion" here "favoring legal abortion," not "encouraging abortion." Very few people would sincerely misunderstand this (although some might pretend to, to score debating points). And, yes, "pro-abortion" does not capture the very important question of whose choice it is. [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith]] 19:14, 17 May 2007 (EDT)
 
::It's hard to condense a complex position into a short phrase, but it really seems obvious to me that if one wanted to pick short, simple names for the factions, those names would be "pro-abortion" and "anti-abortion." Now, before you jump all over me ''of course'' "pro-abortion" here "favoring legal abortion," not "encouraging abortion." Very few people would sincerely misunderstand this (although some might pretend to, to score debating points). And, yes, "pro-abortion" does not capture the very important question of whose choice it is. [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith]] 19:14, 17 May 2007 (EDT)
 
::: I hear ya on obfuscate thing.  Can't stand it when politicians refer to "a woman's right to choose".  Just say it already!  I think "pro-legal-abortion" and "anti-legal-abortion", while a teensy bit longer, might be the most accurate.  (But I do think quite a lot of people *do* sincerely misunderstand the "pro-legal-abortion + abortion-is-a-bad-thing" position.  I think Clinton used "safe, legal, and rare" to express the same idea.)  Glad you're here, [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith]].  Enjoy talkin' to ya.
 
::: I hear ya on obfuscate thing.  Can't stand it when politicians refer to "a woman's right to choose".  Just say it already!  I think "pro-legal-abortion" and "anti-legal-abortion", while a teensy bit longer, might be the most accurate.  (But I do think quite a lot of people *do* sincerely misunderstand the "pro-legal-abortion + abortion-is-a-bad-thing" position.  I think Clinton used "safe, legal, and rare" to express the same idea.)  Glad you're here, [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith]].  Enjoy talkin' to ya.
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Your patience continues to astound me. *doffs cap* --[[User:Robledo|Robledo]] 16:57, 21 May 2007 (EDT)
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