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:If no one objects, I will remove this point. --[[User:Twoflower|Twoflower]] 02:57, 27 February 2007 (EST)
 
:If no one objects, I will remove this point. --[[User:Twoflower|Twoflower]] 02:57, 27 February 2007 (EST)
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:::'''REPLY:'''  Unfortunately, "reverts" do not seem to have a comment section for explanations.  I'm sorry for not seeing your comments here until last night, when I attempted to respond immediately.  (By the way, I also have something of a mathematical background)
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::: The concept of "elementary proof" was important for most of the 20th century.  A Fields medal was given for an elementary proof; Paul Erdos swore by this approach; Math World recognizes it; and mathematicians who emphasize rigor  appreciate the concept also.  Why pretend it doesn't exist?  It certainly does.  Complex analysis has some inherent assumptions, and the concept of "elementary proof" recognizes as much.  Why pretend otherwise?
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::: Wikipedia (unlike Math World) refuses to recognize the concept of "elementary proof," and Wikipedia even omits any reference to the concept in its long-winded treatment of "proof" that you cite above.  This reflects bias.  Math may be less vulnerable to bias than other fields, but no field is completely immune from bias.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 09:38, 1 March 2007 (EST)
    
== We need to decide what this list is ==
 
== We need to decide what this list is ==
    
Is this a list of examples of biases in Wikipedia or an example of problems with Wikipedia or a list of examples of foul-ups of Wikipedia or some combination? I see all three in this, all listed as examples of bias. [[User:JoshuaZ|JoshuaZ]] 21:52, 28 February 2007 (EST)
 
Is this a list of examples of biases in Wikipedia or an example of problems with Wikipedia or a list of examples of foul-ups of Wikipedia or some combination? I see all three in this, all listed as examples of bias. [[User:JoshuaZ|JoshuaZ]] 21:52, 28 February 2007 (EST)
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