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I feel that the term "most scientists" is less accurate than "evolutionists" since the first term does not make clear just who believes that the Earth is billions of years old while the second does.  The term "evolutionists" also makes it clear just why they believe--in order to make it so there is enough time for macroevolution to happen.  Finally, I think the term "most scientists" is biased against creation scientists.  Science is not supposed to be a popularity contest, though evolutionists cannot seem to remember that.  [[User:Ashens|Ashens]] 20:49 1 March 2007 (EST)
 
I feel that the term "most scientists" is less accurate than "evolutionists" since the first term does not make clear just who believes that the Earth is billions of years old while the second does.  The term "evolutionists" also makes it clear just why they believe--in order to make it so there is enough time for macroevolution to happen.  Finally, I think the term "most scientists" is biased against creation scientists.  Science is not supposed to be a popularity contest, though evolutionists cannot seem to remember that.  [[User:Ashens|Ashens]] 20:49 1 March 2007 (EST)
 
*I see the issue with "most scientists" but I strongly disagree with the characterization "evolutionists." The "modern synthesis" or "Neodarwinism" of the 1950s (associated with George Gaylord Simpson) was partly about bringing the paleontologists on board. Before that time, paleontologists as a group were by no means convinced of Darwinian evolution. However, they certainly were in agreement with geologists about the geological time scale and the general age of the Earth. [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith]] 21:28, 1 March 2007 (EST)
 
*I see the issue with "most scientists" but I strongly disagree with the characterization "evolutionists." The "modern synthesis" or "Neodarwinism" of the 1950s (associated with George Gaylord Simpson) was partly about bringing the paleontologists on board. Before that time, paleontologists as a group were by no means convinced of Darwinian evolution. However, they certainly were in agreement with geologists about the geological time scale and the general age of the Earth. [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith]] 21:28, 1 March 2007 (EST)
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* Agreeing with Dpb, while someone who accepts biological evolution will almost certainly accept the age of the earth, they are not intrinsically connected either through science or theology. For example, Hugh Ross of Reasons to Believe minsitries (a prominent Old Earth Creationist ministry) accepts that the earth 4.5 x 10^9 years old but does not accept biological evolution. [[User:JoshuaZ|JoshuaZ]] 21:37, 1 March 2007 (EST)
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