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:::::Like I said, if it cites the mass murders, it still counts. And like I also said earlier, I've encountered several people who actually used the Black Book of Communism itself, or its authors at least, to discredit the book, even went as far as to claim the authors of the book disowned Stéphane Courtois for that person's statements and claimed that if anything what that person claimed was sloppy, all as ammo to discredit it, with TGP not playing ANY role in it being discredited. I encountered that on Discord on a translation site. Still a better source than, say, r/AskHistorians, which if anything pushes a far-left view of history, and yet I've encountered plenty of leftists use THAT to dismiss any references that expose Communism far more than I've EVER seen them use TGP as a source to dismiss anti-Communist thought. In fact, [https://www.reddit.com/r/MawInstallation/comments/mkh3fp/rebel_alliance_and_vietcong_bad_comparisons/gv1gpeq/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=web2x&context=3 how about I show you?] [[User:Pokeria1|Pokeria1]] ([[User talk:Pokeria1|talk]]) 05:49, 11 May 2021 (EDT)
:::::Like I said, if it cites the mass murders, it still counts. And like I also said earlier, I've encountered several people who actually used the Black Book of Communism itself, or its authors at least, to discredit the book, even went as far as to claim the authors of the book disowned Stéphane Courtois for that person's statements and claimed that if anything what that person claimed was sloppy, all as ammo to discredit it, with TGP not playing ANY role in it being discredited. I encountered that on Discord on a translation site. Still a better source than, say, r/AskHistorians, which if anything pushes a far-left view of history, and yet I've encountered plenty of leftists use THAT to dismiss any references that expose Communism far more than I've EVER seen them use TGP as a source to dismiss anti-Communist thought. In fact, [https://www.reddit.com/r/MawInstallation/comments/mkh3fp/rebel_alliance_and_vietcong_bad_comparisons/gv1gpeq/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=web2x&context=3 how about I show you?] [[User:Pokeria1|Pokeria1]] ([[User talk:Pokeria1|talk]]) 05:49, 11 May 2021 (EDT)
::::::You are getting redundant. It is not a scholarly source based upon primary research. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Free Kyle!]]</sup> 06:00, 11 May 2021 (EDT)
::::::You are getting redundant. It is not a scholarly source based upon primary research. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Free Kyle!]]</sup> 06:00, 11 May 2021 (EDT)
:::::::That was based on personal experience with leftists. And for the record, I don't give a darn about scholarly sources, especially when far too many of those things push history to the left. Wikipedia does it all the time and it's been moved to the left. Heck, as noted above with that link, the guy who uses scholarly sources used them to outright DISMISS, say, claims about Hollywood being backed by communists simply because "they're billionaires" and denied China was communist for that reason alone. [[User:Pokeria1|Pokeria1]] ([[User talk:Pokeria1|talk]]) 06:03, 11 May 2021 (EDT)