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(didn't see the bot-checker dialog). This is about Einstein/MLK's socialism vs Hitler's socialism
:Cons. Cons! You still don't .... never mind. It's like arguing with a kitten. They never stay on subject either. Look, I want to know whether you have a thought of you own; one that is not part of a website chosen because it agrees with an opinion you have gained from another website that....and so on. You know what I mean? And yes, Cons. I know what "germaine" means. Oh, and by the way - I am not a socialist.[[User:AlanE|AlanE]] 02:42, 3 March 2013 (EST)
:Cons. Cons! You still don't .... never mind. It's like arguing with a kitten. They never stay on subject either. Look, I want to know whether you have a thought of you own; one that is not part of a website chosen because it agrees with an opinion you have gained from another website that....and so on. You know what I mean? And yes, Cons. I know what "germaine" means. Oh, and by the way - I am not a socialist.[[User:AlanE|AlanE]] 02:42, 3 March 2013 (EST)
I don't see much difference between communism/fascism in practice. And liberalism generally leads to one of these forms of government: socialism/fascism "lite"/fascism/crony capitalism/bankrupt governments/communism/etc. They all want big government. See: http://conservapedia.com/Similarities_between_Communism,_Nazism_and_liberalism Biblical Christianity leads to freedom and the benefits of freedom.[http://www.hulu.com/watch/442918] [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 03:14, 3 March 2013 (EST)
I don't see much difference between communism/fascism in practice. And liberalism generally leads to one of these forms of government: socialism/fascism "lite"/fascism/crony capitalism/bankrupt governments/communism/etc. They all want big government. See: http://conservapedia.com/Similarities_between_Communism,_Nazism_and_liberalism Biblical Christianity leads to freedom and the benefits of freedom.[http://www.hulu.com/watch/442918] [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 03:14, 3 March 2013 (EST)
:The question should be asked why Einstein and MLK Jr. endorsed socialism while both spoke out against Nazis in Germany. MLK Jr. also spoke out against Nazis in the USA after the war, which is probably why a Nazi stormtrooper attacked him in front of a huge crowd. (Who Dr King stopped from ripping the guy limb from limb in response- instead buying the guy a soda and asking him why he was angry.) MLK Jr. was also assassinated by a guy who endorsed Hitler. I know folks here have suggested we paint all socialism as equally evil- but there is a big difference between Hitler and Einstein/MLK Jr. :)
Einstein helped found the Democratic Party of Germany prior to Hitler's rise to power. The good news is that provides us a solid link from the Democrats to Socialists. The bad news is that damages the claim that the post-election Nazis socialism was at the heart of their desire to enslave or eliminate/"purify" all non Aryan races. You could hardly find two people more dedicated to stamping out racist violence than MLK Jr. and Einstein. Note that Einstein and MLK Jr. were also pacifists, though Einstein recanted specifically with regards to the Nazis during the war, and then switched his view once again back to pacifism afterwards- advocating nuclear disarmament. You might want to take the chance to smear Einstein for that wiffle-waffling (sp), except then the claim could be made that Einstein avoided totalitarian thought by making exceptions to his own rules.
A weaker (yet more truthful) statement that would be easier to defend wold be "the Nazi form of socialism was compatible with their notion of ethnic pride, and also their use of violent racist nationalism. It was also particularly vulnerable to demagoguery while under the economic strain. Nazi socialism was also compatible with both the atheist and Christian beliefs of the German and Italian peoples; although obviously *more* compatible with the atheists due to Marx's desire to push forward materialistic philosophy as the backdrop for his socioeconomic theories. One would think that the liberal and modern moires of socialism wouldn't sufficiently honor the traditions that Hitler tried to reawaken from the time of proto-Germany / proto-Italy (eg the Holy Roman Empire or Christendom ), but apparently identity politics has again made for some strange bedfellows, in the enemy-of-my-enemy sense." Okay that was horrible admittedly, but it at least addressed most of what I thought needed saying. Sorry for the long-winded discussion.
:Have you finished yet? I keep getting an edit conflict as you fiddle around with your edit.....
:Have you finished yet? I keep getting an edit conflict as you fiddle around with your edit.....
:Cos! You're still at it. See this site, see that. Cons, I hate Fascism and I hate Communism. There may be the odd liberal that agrees with Communism but I have never met one and I bet I've played with, worked with, sung with, travelled with, met, drunk with, and generally interacted with more liberals than you've had cooked dinners. (And that's not counting the women.) I have, however, met the odd right wing wierdo that still considers Hitler the ant's pants. And believe me - they weren't liberals! [[User:AlanE|AlanE]] 03:39, 3 March 2013 (EST)
:Cos! You're still at it. See this site, see that. Cons, I hate Fascism and I hate Communism. There may be the odd liberal that agrees with Communism but I have never met one and I bet I've played with, worked with, sung with, travelled with, met, drunk with, and generally interacted with more liberals than you've had cooked dinners. (And that's not counting the women.) I have, however, met the odd right wing wierdo that still considers Hitler the ant's pants. And believe me - they weren't liberals! [[User:AlanE|AlanE]] 03:39, 3 March 2013 (EST)