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At least both insights are equally valid. --[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] ([[User talk:AugustO|talk]]) 13:01, July 25, 2021 (EDT)
 
At least both insights are equally valid. --[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] ([[User talk:AugustO|talk]]) 13:01, July 25, 2021 (EDT)
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===Proof that π does not contain π:===
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1) Let &pi; be represented by the sequence of digits x<sub>0</sub>.x<sub>1</sub>=1, x<sub>2</sub>x<sub>3</sub>x<sub>4</sub>x<sub>5</sub>......
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Therefore x<sub>0</sub> = 3, x<sub>1</sub>, x<sub>2</sub>=4, x<sub>1000</sub>=9, and so on.
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2) Assume that &pi; contains &pi;: Then there is an index <i>n</i> such that x<sub>0</sub> = x<sub>n</sub> = 3,
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x<sub>1</sub> = x<sub>n+1</sub> = 1, x<sub>1000</sub> = x<sub>1000+n</sub> = 9, or in general x<sub>k</sub> = x<sub>n + k </sub> for all natural numbers k.
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3) But then, &pi;'s representation is periodic: x<sub>0</sub> = x<sub>n</sub> = x<sub>2n</sub> = x<sub>3n</sub> = x<sub>w n</sub> for all natural numbers <i>w</i>.
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4) Every number with a periodic representation is a rational number. In this case, we could present &pi; as
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x<sub>0</sub>x<sub>1</sub>x<sub>2</sub>x<sub>3</sub>...x<sub>n-1</sub> / (10<sup>n-1</sup> -1)
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5) It is well know that &pi; is not a rational number, so we have a contradiction. Ergo, &pi; cannot contain itself.
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--[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] ([[User talk:AugustO|talk]]) 13:18, July 25, 2021 (EDT)
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