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According to Dodd, he was called to meet Ford Foundation administrator Horace Rowan Gaither, Jr., known as Rowan Gaither.<ref name=interview/> Gaither admitted that the foundation's objectives were to subvert American society so that it could:

According to Dodd, he was called to meet Ford Foundation administrator Horace Rowan Gaither, Jr., known as Rowan Gaither.<ref name=interview/> Gaither admitted that the foundation's objectives were to subvert American society so that it could:

{{cquote|be comfortably merged with the [[Soviet Union]].}}

{{cquote|...be comfortably merged with the [[Soviet Union]].}}

Dodd questioned why Gaither and the foundation withheld such information from the American public, to which they were indebted due to their tax-exempt status. Gaither responded:

Dodd questioned why Gaither and the foundation withheld such information from the American public, to which they were indebted due to their tax-exempt status. Gaither responded: