| | ::<digression> If I may digress with a personal observation momentarily: Recently it's been reported that Russia is the only country to ever land probes in [[Venus]]. [https://www.sciencetimes.com/articles/27334/20200917/venus-russian-planet.htm] Wikipedia does not dispute this. Circa 1962 I distinctly recall MSM news reports that China had landed a probe on Venus with a Chinese flag and broadcast ''The East is Red''. So, is it possible the deep state/military-industrial complex has been faking news since the early 1960s to create public panic and justify funding for NASA & the CIA? Perhaps.<end> [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Free Kyle!]]</sup> 14:49, October 25, 2021 (EDT) | | ::<digression> If I may digress with a personal observation momentarily: Recently it's been reported that Russia is the only country to ever land probes in [[Venus]]. [https://www.sciencetimes.com/articles/27334/20200917/venus-russian-planet.htm] Wikipedia does not dispute this. Circa 1962 I distinctly recall MSM news reports that China had landed a probe on Venus with a Chinese flag and broadcast ''The East is Red''. So, is it possible the deep state/military-industrial complex has been faking news since the early 1960s to create public panic and justify funding for NASA & the CIA? Perhaps.<end> [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Free Kyle!]]</sup> 14:49, October 25, 2021 (EDT) |
| | :::I thought Wikipedia was barred from being used as a source for anything on Conservapedia due to it's [[Wikipedia Bias|huge leftist bias]]? Besides, if the Deep State was to utilize fake news for anything, it would be more like helping Walter Cronkite lie about the Vietnam War to further agitate the anti-War Crowd, like with his infamous Tet Offensive broadcast. And don't get me started on how the Deep State via Obama basically gutted NASA to basically be a muslim outreach group rather than a place that studies the atmosphere and launches rockets. [[User:Pokeria1|Pokeria1]] ([[User talk:Pokeria1|talk]]) 18:55, October 25, 2021 (EDT) | | :::I thought Wikipedia was barred from being used as a source for anything on Conservapedia due to it's [[Wikipedia Bias|huge leftist bias]]? Besides, if the Deep State was to utilize fake news for anything, it would be more like helping Walter Cronkite lie about the Vietnam War to further agitate the anti-War Crowd, like with his infamous Tet Offensive broadcast. And don't get me started on how the Deep State via Obama basically gutted NASA to basically be a muslim outreach group rather than a place that studies the atmosphere and launches rockets. [[User:Pokeria1|Pokeria1]] ([[User talk:Pokeria1|talk]]) 18:55, October 25, 2021 (EDT) |
| − | ::::NASA, like the CIA, only survived the Cold War and not having their budgets decimated by adopting the [[KGB]] climate crisis conspiracy theory to get continued funding. | + | ::::NASA, like the CIA, only survived the Cold War and not having their budgets decimated by adopting the [[KGB]] climate crisis conspiracy theory to justify continued funding against alleged "threats". |
| | ::::Wikipedia reports, "Venera 1 was launched on 12 February 1961. Telemetry on the probe failed seven days after launch. It is believed to have passed within 100,000 km (62,000 mi) of Venus and remains in heliocentric orbit. ...Several other failed attempts at Venus flyby probes were launched by the Soviet Union in the early 1960s,[2][3] but were not announced as planetary missions at the time, and hence did not officially receive the "Venera" designation." and then there is this: "a lengthy design conference was held, lasting 42 days – from 20th October to 2nd December 1965 – and called the “651 conference”. This settled the details of the satellite, called the Dong Fang Hong 1 (“the east is red”)." [http://ourairports.biz/?p=3637] All this occurred before Yuri Gargarin's first manned space flight, so it's unsurprising that it's been shunted behind other historical events in the space race. So is it possible, that in 1961 in the early days of technological competition, the American people were lied to, and a failed Venus test was attributed as a Chinese success in American MSM in 1961? This was in the early days of the [[Sino-Soviet split]], and Americans needed to be frightened or reminded of the threat from the Communist bloc. And use of the name ''East is Red'', four years before the fact, could have been a not-so-subtle message to the CCP from our amateurish CIA that they had a direct pipeline into China's most prized national security planning discussions. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Free Kyle!]]</sup> 20:16, October 25, 2021 (EDT) | | ::::Wikipedia reports, "Venera 1 was launched on 12 February 1961. Telemetry on the probe failed seven days after launch. It is believed to have passed within 100,000 km (62,000 mi) of Venus and remains in heliocentric orbit. ...Several other failed attempts at Venus flyby probes were launched by the Soviet Union in the early 1960s,[2][3] but were not announced as planetary missions at the time, and hence did not officially receive the "Venera" designation." and then there is this: "a lengthy design conference was held, lasting 42 days – from 20th October to 2nd December 1965 – and called the “651 conference”. This settled the details of the satellite, called the Dong Fang Hong 1 (“the east is red”)." [http://ourairports.biz/?p=3637] All this occurred before Yuri Gargarin's first manned space flight, so it's unsurprising that it's been shunted behind other historical events in the space race. So is it possible, that in 1961 in the early days of technological competition, the American people were lied to, and a failed Venus test was attributed as a Chinese success in American MSM in 1961? This was in the early days of the [[Sino-Soviet split]], and Americans needed to be frightened or reminded of the threat from the Communist bloc. And use of the name ''East is Red'', four years before the fact, could have been a not-so-subtle message to the CCP from our amateurish CIA that they had a direct pipeline into China's most prized national security planning discussions. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Free Kyle!]]</sup> 20:16, October 25, 2021 (EDT) |