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::::Oh, I definitely agree China's our primary enemy currently. However, we should keep Russia at arms length at best, especially considering some pretty credible sources regarding Putin NOT actually renouncing Communism, especially with that Sochi World Youth Conference thing (and quite frankly, that law being passed or not, I still don't buy the claim that he's anti-Communist after he backed explicitly Marxist countries/groups. I don't care if he did so as a response to Obama's law being passed. Actually, if anything, Obama would have been a good reason NOT to ally with Marxists since it's essentially saying "I'm allying with Obama while fighting him", since Obama IS a Marxist, just as the groups he financially backed). The last thing we need is a repeat of the aftermath of World War II where, after we defeated the primary enemy, the Axis powers (that is to say, Nazi Germany, Fascist Italy, and Imperial Japan), we stupidly let Soviet Russia take control of Eastern Europe and also turn China and North Korea Red. [[User:Pokeria1|Pokeria1]] ([[User talk:Pokeria1|talk]]) 18:55, October 25, 2021 (EDT)
 
::::Oh, I definitely agree China's our primary enemy currently. However, we should keep Russia at arms length at best, especially considering some pretty credible sources regarding Putin NOT actually renouncing Communism, especially with that Sochi World Youth Conference thing (and quite frankly, that law being passed or not, I still don't buy the claim that he's anti-Communist after he backed explicitly Marxist countries/groups. I don't care if he did so as a response to Obama's law being passed. Actually, if anything, Obama would have been a good reason NOT to ally with Marxists since it's essentially saying "I'm allying with Obama while fighting him", since Obama IS a Marxist, just as the groups he financially backed). The last thing we need is a repeat of the aftermath of World War II where, after we defeated the primary enemy, the Axis powers (that is to say, Nazi Germany, Fascist Italy, and Imperial Japan), we stupidly let Soviet Russia take control of Eastern Europe and also turn China and North Korea Red. [[User:Pokeria1|Pokeria1]] ([[User talk:Pokeria1|talk]]) 18:55, October 25, 2021 (EDT)
 
:::::China is not just the "Flavor of the Month" enemy. It will remain so for as long the CCP is in power, which, according to them, is indefinitely.[[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Free Kyle!]]</sup> 23:21, October 25, 2021 (EDT)
 
:::::China is not just the "Flavor of the Month" enemy. It will remain so for as long the CCP is in power, which, according to them, is indefinitely.[[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Free Kyle!]]</sup> 23:21, October 25, 2021 (EDT)
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::::::Yeah, and Hitler claimed that the Nazis would remain in power indefinitely. Didn't work out so well for them. The CCP and even the Soviet Communists (which still exist unfortunately, arguably including Putin) ultimately will fall. [[User:Pokeria1|Pokeria1]] ([[User talk:Pokeria1|talk]]) 05:32, October 26, 2021 (EDT)
    
::<digression> If I may digress with a personal observation momentarily: Recently it's been reported that Russia is the only country to ever land probes in [[Venus]]. [https://www.sciencetimes.com/articles/27334/20200917/venus-russian-planet.htm]  Wikipedia does not dispute this. Circa 1962 I distinctly recall MSM news reports that China had landed a probe on Venus with a Chinese flag and broadcast ''The East is Red''. So, is it possible the deep state/military-industrial complex has been faking news since the early 1960s to create public panic and justify funding for NASA & the CIA? Perhaps.<end> [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Free Kyle!]]</sup> 14:49, October 25, 2021 (EDT)
 
::<digression> If I may digress with a personal observation momentarily: Recently it's been reported that Russia is the only country to ever land probes in [[Venus]]. [https://www.sciencetimes.com/articles/27334/20200917/venus-russian-planet.htm]  Wikipedia does not dispute this. Circa 1962 I distinctly recall MSM news reports that China had landed a probe on Venus with a Chinese flag and broadcast ''The East is Red''. So, is it possible the deep state/military-industrial complex has been faking news since the early 1960s to create public panic and justify funding for NASA & the CIA? Perhaps.<end> [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Free Kyle!]]</sup> 14:49, October 25, 2021 (EDT)
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::::::Every year the CIA made assessments of the Soviet economy (cause the communists never published official figures). They said year after year for decades that the USSR GDP was roughly half of US GDP, and spent twice as much on defense, which was called "parity" in arms negotiations.  Today, as it turns out. the Russian Federation total annual budget equals about what the U.S. federal government spends in 3 days (figure Russian defense spending is probably less than 25% of its total government budget.  That would equal about what our federal government spends on everything in 18 hours.)  Let's look at propaganda: NBC News alone (not counting CNN, CBS, Reuters, AP, etc) spends more on global operations than the Russian Foreign Ministry for its entire operations worldwide.
 
::::::Every year the CIA made assessments of the Soviet economy (cause the communists never published official figures). They said year after year for decades that the USSR GDP was roughly half of US GDP, and spent twice as much on defense, which was called "parity" in arms negotiations.  Today, as it turns out. the Russian Federation total annual budget equals about what the U.S. federal government spends in 3 days (figure Russian defense spending is probably less than 25% of its total government budget.  That would equal about what our federal government spends on everything in 18 hours.)  Let's look at propaganda: NBC News alone (not counting CNN, CBS, Reuters, AP, etc) spends more on global operations than the Russian Foreign Ministry for its entire operations worldwide.
 
::::::It just gets tiresome hearing discredited stories from discredited sources with obvious, known motivations day after day for decades. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Free Kyle!]]</sup> 22:53, October 25, 2021 (EDT)
 
::::::It just gets tiresome hearing discredited stories from discredited sources with obvious, known motivations day after day for decades. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Free Kyle!]]</sup> 22:53, October 25, 2021 (EDT)
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:::::::If I were the CIA, I wouldn't need global warming to justify my continued existence. I'd just try to take out the Cubans, Norks, and Red Chinese instead. As long as Communism exists, there's plenty of reason to continue, even without the USSR. Simply ending the USSR wasn't enough (besides, it's also debatable whether the USSR did indeed collapse since [https://www.theblaze.com/news/2014/03/19/what-if-an-ex-kgb-officer-predicted-that-the-ussr-would-fake-its-own-collapse-to-ultimately-defeat-the-west-and-no-one-listened at least one KGB defector implied they simply entered sleep mode] rather than actually collapsing.). [[User:Pokeria1|Pokeria1]] ([[User talk:Pokeria1|talk]]) 05:32, October 26, 2021 (EDT)
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