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::::::It just gets tiresome hearing discredited stories from discredited sources with obvious, known motivations day after day for decades. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Free Kyle!]]</sup> 22:53, October 25, 2021 (EDT)
::::::It just gets tiresome hearing discredited stories from discredited sources with obvious, known motivations day after day for decades. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Free Kyle!]]</sup> 22:53, October 25, 2021 (EDT)
:::::::If I were the CIA, I wouldn't need global warming to justify my continued existence. I'd just try to take out the Cubans, Norks, and Red Chinese instead. As long as Communism exists, there's plenty of reason to continue, even without the USSR. Simply ending the USSR wasn't enough (besides, it's also debatable whether the USSR did indeed collapse since [https://www.theblaze.com/news/2014/03/19/what-if-an-ex-kgb-officer-predicted-that-the-ussr-would-fake-its-own-collapse-to-ultimately-defeat-the-west-and-no-one-listened at least one KGB defector implied they simply entered sleep mode] rather than actually collapsing. And I know the late DIE defector Ion Mihai Pacepa indicated similar stories as well.). Now, maybe under Yeltsin, it could have been possible to let the Russians join NATO after they've demolished literally ALL of the Soviet stuff, yes, including Karl Marx's statue. But after Putin came to power, that's no longer possible. Not after several right-wing authors, many of whom aren't friends of the deep state anyhow, gave pretty convincing claims that he's as anti-Communist as Fidel Castro (meaning not anti-Communist at all). [[User:Pokeria1|Pokeria1]] ([[User talk:Pokeria1|talk]]) 05:32, October 26, 2021 (EDT)
:::::::If I were the CIA, I wouldn't need global warming to justify my continued existence. I'd just try to take out the Cubans, Norks, and Red Chinese instead. As long as Communism exists, there's plenty of reason to continue, even without the USSR. Simply ending the USSR wasn't enough (besides, it's also debatable whether the USSR did indeed collapse since [https://www.theblaze.com/news/2014/03/19/what-if-an-ex-kgb-officer-predicted-that-the-ussr-would-fake-its-own-collapse-to-ultimately-defeat-the-west-and-no-one-listened at least one KGB defector implied they simply entered sleep mode] rather than actually collapsing. And I know the late DIE defector Ion Mihai Pacepa indicated similar stories as well.). Now, maybe under Yeltsin, it could have been possible to let the Russians join NATO after they've demolished literally ALL of the Soviet stuff, yes, including Karl Marx's statue. But after Putin came to power, that's no longer possible. Not after several right-wing authors, many of whom aren't friends of the deep state anyhow, gave pretty convincing claims that he's as anti-Communist as Fidel Castro (meaning not anti-Communist at all). [[User:Pokeria1|Pokeria1]] ([[User talk:Pokeria1|talk]]) 05:32, October 26, 2021 (EDT)
::::::::Putin is frustrated that the West, NATO, and the US keep pushing the Russian Federation into a costly arms race with technological upgrades. He'd rather work with the West countering radical Islamic terrorism and CCP adventurism.
::::::::The ruse is over. Call it the post-post-Cold War period (or Cold War II). We no longer have to pretend Russia is the boogeyman so as not to alarm the CCP into a military buildup having a 4,000 mile border with NATO. CIA, NATO, and [[WTO]] assessments were wrong - China has undergone a military build-up and began an arms race more than 20 years ago already. Our Sputnik moment has arrived. Just as the Manhattan Project was a joint US/UK operation, it's time to think seriously about [https://www.voltairenet.org/article213635.html Putin's proposal for Yalta II.] [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Free Kyle!]]</sup> 12:35, October 26, 2021 (EDT)