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::::::::::What's wrong with replacing NATO with a series of unilateral alliances?--[[User:Geopolitician|Geopolitician]] ([[User talk:Geopolitician|talk]]) 21:08, October 25, 2021 (EDT)

::::::::::What's wrong with replacing NATO with a series of unilateral alliances?--[[User:Geopolitician|Geopolitician]] ([[User talk:Geopolitician|talk]]) 21:08, October 25, 2021 (EDT)

:::::::::::You mean, aside from the fact that a series of unilateral alliances led directly to World War I and the outgrowth of Marxism, culminating in Lenin taking power as well as his exporting Marxism throughout the world as early as when he tried to invade Germany before being [[Polish-Soviet War|stopped at Poland]]? Besides, let me remind you that if it weren't for NATO, the likes of Germany, the UK, France, and most of Western Europe would be speaking Russian and hailing Karl Marx much earlier than now due to Stalin pushing an invasion, or at most infiltrations in the style of that memoir "And Not a Shot was Fired." [[User:Pokeria1|Pokeria1]] ([[User talk:Pokeria1|talk]]) 21:20, October 25, 2021 (EDT)

:::::::::::You mean, aside from the fact that a series of unilateral alliances led directly to World War I and the outgrowth of Marxism, culminating in Lenin taking power as well as his exporting Marxism throughout the world as early as when he tried to invade Germany before being [[Polish-Soviet War|stopped at Poland]]? Besides, let me remind you that if it weren't for NATO, the likes of Germany, the UK, France, and most of Western Europe would be speaking Russian and hailing Karl Marx much earlier than now due to Stalin pushing an invasion, or at most infiltrations in the style of that memoir "And Not a Shot was Fired." [[User:Pokeria1|Pokeria1]] ([[User talk:Pokeria1|talk]]) 21:20, October 25, 2021 (EDT)

Putin is not the enemy. The Deep State wants us to believe that he is, because he’s a constant foil for its agenda.--[[User:Geopolitician|Geopolitician]] ([[User talk:Geopolitician|talk]]) 11:34, October 25, 2021 (EDT)

Putin is not the enemy. The Deep State wants us to believe that he is, because he’s a constant foil for its agenda.--[[User:Geopolitician|Geopolitician]] ([[User talk:Geopolitician|talk]]) 11:34, October 25, 2021 (EDT)

:::::We don't need NATO to contain China. The only members outside the US itself that would have any real use for containing China are Canada, France, Germany, and the UK. The rest of them can't really project hard power outside their own backyards, much less into China's (okay, Turkey technically ''can'' expand its influence into Central Asia, which is part of China's backyard, but I don't trust the Erdogan regime at all, so I'm not counting that one).--[[User:Geopolitician|Geopolitician]] ([[User talk:Geopolitician|talk]]) 21:08, October 25, 2021 (EDT)

:::::We don't need NATO to contain China. The only members outside the US itself that would have any real use for containing China are Canada, France, Germany, and the UK. The rest of them can't really project hard power outside their own backyards, much less into China's (okay, Turkey technically ''can'' expand its influence into Central Asia, which is part of China's backyard, but I don't trust the Erdogan regime at all, so I'm not counting that one).--[[User:Geopolitician|Geopolitician]] ([[User talk:Geopolitician|talk]]) 21:08, October 25, 2021 (EDT)

::::::Which is EXACTLY the point behind NATO. We have to defend those who can't defend themselves. And use your head, if they can't defend outside their backyards as you seem to imply, that means it will only be a matter of time before Canada, France, Germany, and the UK, to say little about us, fall to China, not to mention Marxist ideology as a whole. And we cannot let that happen. Heck, during the great depression when we actually DID practice constant isolation, Communism made vast inroads into America and presumably into large parts of Western Europe, and a group like NATO didn't even exist back then. [[User:Pokeria1|Pokeria1]] ([[User talk:Pokeria1|talk]]) 21:20, October 25, 2021 (EDT)

::::::Which is EXACTLY the point behind NATO. We have to defend those who can't defend themselves. And use your head, if they can't defend outside their backyards as you seem to imply, that means it will only be a matter of time before Canada, France, Germany, and the UK, to say little about us, fall to China, not to mention Marxist ideology as a whole. And we cannot let that happen. Heck, during the great depression when we actually DID practice constant isolation, Communism made vast inroads into America and presumably into large parts of Western Europe, and a group like NATO didn't even exist back then. [[User:Pokeria1|Pokeria1]] ([[User talk:Pokeria1|talk]]) 21:20, October 25, 2021 (EDT)

:::::::NATO apparently now exists so when some third world bumpkin like Gadaffi, in a divided country of 3 million people [https://www.smh.com.au/world/gaddafi-sitting-on-143-tonnes-of-gold-in-libya-report-20110322-1c4cj.html sits atop 143 tones of gold] and gets too big for his britches, criminals like Hillary Clinton, Nicolas Sarkozy, and David Cameron can go down and snatch it (kinda like Wotan and Loge in ''Das Rheingold'').  [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]^{[[User talk:RobSmith|Free Kyle!]]} 23:21, October 25, 2021 (EDT)

:::::::NATO apparently now exists so when some third world bumpkin like Gadaffi, in a divided country of 3 million people [https://www.smh.com.au/world/gaddafi-sitting-on-143-tonnes-of-gold-in-libya-report-20110322-1c4cj.html sits atop 143 tones of gold] and gets too big for his britches, criminals like Hillary Clinton, Nicolas Sarkozy, and David Cameron can go down and snatch it (kinda like Wotan and Loge in ''Das Rheingold'').  [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]^{[[User talk:RobSmith|Free Kyle!]]} 23:21, October 25, 2021 (EDT)

:::::I wouldn't be so sure about there being a true split between the Soviets and the Red Chinese. Let's not forget that China [https://www.wilsoncenter.org/article/china-contributed-substantially-to-vietnam-war-victory-claims-scholar was willing to collaborate with the Soviets during the Vietnam War], which occurred AFTER the split. Besides, last I checked, Wikipedia references are not even allowed on Conservapedia due to it being too biased to the left. Not that I needed any further proof that the media lies constantly. Let's not forget they repeatedly lied during the McCarthy hearings, constantly tried to paint Joseph McCarthy as a nut and successfully did so, not to mention repeatedly lied about Castro being anti-Communist, lied about and covered up Holodomor, etc., etc. And all before the [[Tet Offensive]] and Walter Cronkite's infamous report on that. Heck, Walter Lippmann practically and quite literally wrote the dang playbook of media constantly lying to their audience, making them even worse than the yellow journalism they replaced. At least yellow journalism allowed for differing point of views rather than a monolithic lie. In fact, considering the media loves communism, it's unlikely they'd try to scaremonger people to fight against the Soviets or other Communists, and if anything are more likely to scaremonger people against "right wingers" like us. Honestly, forget politicians, the way you know the media lies to you is that they move their lips and write things down. [[User:Pokeria1|Pokeria1]] ([[User talk:Pokeria1|talk]]) 20:54, October 25, 2021 (EDT)

:::::I wouldn't be so sure about there being a true split between the Soviets and the Red Chinese. Let's not forget that China [https://www.wilsoncenter.org/article/china-contributed-substantially-to-vietnam-war-victory-claims-scholar was willing to collaborate with the Soviets during the Vietnam War], which occurred AFTER the split. Besides, last I checked, Wikipedia references are not even allowed on Conservapedia due to it being too biased to the left. Not that I needed any further proof that the media lies constantly. Let's not forget they repeatedly lied during the McCarthy hearings, constantly tried to paint Joseph McCarthy as a nut and successfully did so, not to mention repeatedly lied about Castro being anti-Communist, lied about and covered up Holodomor, etc., etc. And all before the [[Tet Offensive]] and Walter Cronkite's infamous report on that. Heck, Walter Lippmann practically and quite literally wrote the dang playbook of media constantly lying to their audience, making them even worse than the yellow journalism they replaced. At least yellow journalism allowed for differing point of views rather than a monolithic lie. In fact, considering the media loves communism, it's unlikely they'd try to scaremonger people to fight against the Soviets or other Communists, and if anything are more likely to scaremonger people against "right wingers" like us. Honestly, forget politicians, the way you know the media lies to you is that they move their lips and write things down. [[User:Pokeria1|Pokeria1]] ([[User talk:Pokeria1|talk]]) 20:54, October 25, 2021 (EDT)

::::::It's all about budgets. [[Patrick Moynihan]] wanted to [https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1991/01/23/moynihan-bill-would-abolish-cia-shift-functions-to-state/3355e413-7b93-4bbc-bca5-305880f627c2/ abolish the CIA when the USSR collapsed.]  All of them, NATO, CIA, NASA, all had to justify their continued existence when the Cold War ended. They latched onto global warming as the future threat.  As China was being cultivated for investment, nobody wanted them to feel threatened by allowing Russia to join NATO (as [[Yeltsin]] wanted, and as other [[Warsaw Pact]] members were invited in). So the myth of the Russian boogeyman had to be perpetuated to placate China, despite Moynihan being sickened and outraged after years of fake reporting from the CIA.

::::::It's all about budgets. [[Patrick Moynihan]] wanted to [https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1991/01/23/moynihan-bill-would-abolish-cia-shift-functions-to-state/3355e413-7b93-4bbc-bca5-305880f627c2/ abolish the CIA when the USSR collapsed.]  All of them, NATO, CIA, NASA, all had to justify their continued existence when the Cold War ended. They latched onto global warming as the future threat.  As China was being cultivated for investment, nobody wanted them to feel threatened by allowing Russia to join NATO (as [[Yeltsin]] wanted, and as other [[Warsaw Pact]] members were invited in). So the myth of the Russian boogeyman had to be perpetuated to placate China, despite Moynihan being sickened and outraged after years of fake reporting from the CIA.

::::::Every year the CIA made assessments of the Soviet economy (cause the communists never published official figures). They said year after year for decades that the USSR GDP was roughly half of US GDP, and spent twice as much on defense, which was called "parity" in arms negotiations.  Today, as it turns out. the Russian Federation total annual budget equals about what the U.S. federal government spends in 3 days (figure Russian defense spending is probably less than 25% of its total government budget.  That would equal about what our federal government spends on everything in 18 hours.)  Let's look at propaganda: NBC News alone (not counting CNN, CBS, Reuters, AP, etc) spends more on global operations than the Russian Foreign Ministry for its entire operations worldwide.

::::::Every year the CIA made assessments of the Soviet economy (cause the communists never published official figures). They said year after year for decades that the USSR GDP was roughly half of US GDP, and spent twice as much on defense, which was called "parity" in arms negotiations.  Today, as it turns out. the Russian Federation total annual budget equals about what the U.S. federal government spends in 3 days (figure Russian defense spending is probably less than 25% of its total government budget.  That would equal about what our federal government spends on everything in 18 hours.)  Let's look at propaganda: NBC News alone (not counting CNN, CBS, Reuters, AP, etc) spends more on global operations than the Russian Foreign Ministry for its entire operations worldwide.

::::::It just gets tiresome hearing discredited stories from discredited sources with obvious, known motivations day after day for decades. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]^{[[User talk:RobSmith|Free Kyle!]]} 22:53, October 25, 2021 (EDT)

::::::It just gets tiresome hearing discredited stories from discredited sources with obvious, known motivations day after day for decades. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]^{[[User talk:RobSmith|Free Kyle!]]} 22:53, October 25, 2021 (EDT)

:::::::If I were the CIA, I wouldn't need global warming to justify my continued existence. I'd just try to take out the Cubans, Norks, and Red Chinese instead. As long as Communism exists, there's plenty of reason to continue, even without the USSR. Simply ending the USSR wasn't enough (besides, it's also debatable whether the USSR did indeed collapse since [https://www.theblaze.com/news/2014/03/19/what-if-an-ex-kgb-officer-predicted-that-the-ussr-would-fake-its-own-collapse-to-ultimately-defeat-the-west-and-no-one-listened at least one KGB defector implied they simply entered sleep mode] rather than actually collapsing. And I know the late DIE defector Ion Mihai Pacepa indicated similar stories as well.). Now, maybe under Yeltsin, it could have been possible to let the Russians join NATO after they've demolished literally ALL of the Soviet stuff, yes, including Karl Marx's statue. But after Putin came to power, that's no longer possible. Not after several right-wing authors, many of whom aren't friends of the deep state anyhow, gave pretty convincing claims that he's as anti-Communist as Fidel Castro (meaning not anti-Communist at all). [[User:Pokeria1|Pokeria1]] ([[User talk:Pokeria1|talk]]) 05:32, October 26, 2021 (EDT)

:::::::If I were the CIA, I wouldn't need global warming to justify my continued existence. I'd just try to take out the Cubans, Norks, and Red Chinese instead. As long as Communism exists, there's plenty of reason to continue, even without the USSR. Simply ending the USSR wasn't enough (besides, it's also debatable whether the USSR did indeed collapse since [https://www.theblaze.com/news/2014/03/19/what-if-an-ex-kgb-officer-predicted-that-the-ussr-would-fake-its-own-collapse-to-ultimately-defeat-the-west-and-no-one-listened at least one KGB defector implied they simply entered sleep mode] rather than actually collapsing. And I know the late DIE defector Ion Mihai Pacepa indicated similar stories as well.). Now, maybe under Yeltsin, it could have been possible to let the Russians join NATO after they've demolished literally ALL of the Soviet stuff, yes, including Karl Marx's statue. But after Putin came to power, that's no longer possible. Not after several right-wing authors, many of whom aren't friends of the deep state anyhow, gave pretty convincing claims that he's as anti-Communist as Fidel Castro (meaning not anti-Communist at all). [[User:Pokeria1|Pokeria1]] ([[User talk:Pokeria1|talk]]) 05:32, October 26, 2021 (EDT)

::::::::Putin is frustrated that the West, NATO, and the US keep pushing the Russian Federation into a costly arms race with technological upgrades. He'd rather work with the West countering radical Islamic terrorism and CCP adventurism.   

::::::::Putin is frustrated that the West, NATO, and the US keep pushing the Russian Federation into a costly arms race with technological upgrades. He'd rather work with the West countering radical Islamic terrorism and CCP adventurism.   

::::::::The ruse is over. Call it the post-post-Cold War period (or Cold War II).  We no longer have to pretend Russia is the boogeyman so as not to alarm the CCP into a military buildup. The CIA, NATO, and [[WTO]] assessments were wrong - China has undergone a military build-up and began an arms race more than 20 years ago already.  Our Sputnik moment has arrived. Just as the Manhattan Project was a joint US/UK operation, it's time to think seriously about [https://www.voltairenet.org/article213635.html Putin's proposal for Yalta II.]  [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]^{[[User talk:RobSmith|Free Kyle!]]} 12:35, October 26, 2021 (EDT)

::::::::The ruse is over. Call it the post-post-Cold War period (or Cold War II).  We no longer have to pretend Russia is the boogeyman so as not to alarm the CCP into a military buildup. The CIA, NATO, and [[WTO]] assessments were wrong - China has undergone a military build-up and began an arms race more than 20 years ago already.  Our Sputnik moment has arrived. Just as the Manhattan Project was a joint US/UK operation, it's time to think seriously about [https://www.voltairenet.org/article213635.html Putin's proposal for Yalta II.]  [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]^{[[User talk:RobSmith|Free Kyle!]]} 12:35, October 26, 2021 (EDT)

<sidenote>Incidentally, we're beginning to see Milley's genius strategic thinking for the Afghan debacle. The US is overflying Pakistan (without permission) with drones to surveil and whatever Afghanistan. This obviously is a test of Chinese missile defense systems, in preparation for Biden's "pivot to Asia", i.e. defense of Taiwan.<end> [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]^{[[User talk:RobSmith|Free Kyle!]]} 12:45, October 26, 2021 (EDT)

<sidenote>Incidentally, we're beginning to see Milley's genius strategic thinking for the Afghan debacle. The US is overflying Pakistan (without permission) with drones to surveil and whatever Afghanistan. This obviously is a test of Chinese missile defense systems, in preparation for Biden's "pivot to Asia", i.e. defense of Taiwan.<end> [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]^{[[User talk:RobSmith|Free Kyle!]]} 12:45, October 26, 2021 (EDT)