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| | ::::::::::::First off, WWI was not started by ''bi''lateral alliances (that was the term I intended to use in my last post, I apologize for that typo). Both the Triple Alliance and the Triple Entente were multilateral, as they involved more than two parties. | | ::::::::::::First off, WWI was not started by ''bi''lateral alliances (that was the term I intended to use in my last post, I apologize for that typo). Both the Triple Alliance and the Triple Entente were multilateral, as they involved more than two parties. |
| | ::::::::::::And second, it goes against historical American tradition to form multilateral alliances, or even bilateral alliances which are permanent in nature. See George Washington's Farewell Address.--[[User:Geopolitician|Geopolitician]] ([[User talk:Geopolitician|talk]]) 14:55, October 26, 2021 (EDT) | | ::::::::::::And second, it goes against historical American tradition to form multilateral alliances, or even bilateral alliances which are permanent in nature. See George Washington's Farewell Address.--[[User:Geopolitician|Geopolitician]] ([[User talk:Geopolitician|talk]]) 14:55, October 26, 2021 (EDT) |
| | + | :::::::::::::Yeah, and we didn't have multilateral alliances, bi or multi, during the Great Depression, went into full isolation mode to such an extent that we had to withhold any funding to the Germans and others because of it in an attempt to prevent the huge crash from affecting us. Last I checked, going full isolationist if anything resulted in the Communists making significant inroads to America thanks largely to FDR and Eleanor. And don't get me started on all those pro-Democracy groups early into America's founding that Jefferson let in to promote the Jacobins, leading to a LOT of serious problems as a result. And bear in mind that the French Revolution literally helped set up Marxism and possibly also the Deep State. Abbe Barruell certainly thought the Deep State ultimately had its roots in Voltaire based on his Jacobin Memoirs treatsie, and that was definitely while Washington advocated for neutrality (and personally, I think declaring neutrality during that time was a mistake. If we just sided with King Louis XVI and stopped the Jacobin menace, they would have been forgotten as an incompetent group who tried to overthrow France, with there being no Marxism as a result (or at least, Marx certainly won't take inspiration from the Jacobins). We didn't even need to side with Great Britain to stop the Jacobins, just state we're not doing it for Great Britain, but just trying to prevent the concept of "liberty" from being perverted by godless anarchists.). In fact, the fact that the Jacobins literally tried to influence America in a wrong direction in what was undeniably an attack on the American way would have been sufficient reason to go to war WITH France as a third party, as even Washington outright stated the Jacobins were a godless illuminati group and should NOT be supported. [[User:Pokeria1|Pokeria1]] ([[User talk:Pokeria1|talk]]) 21:49, October 26, 2021 (EDT) |
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| | Putin is not the enemy. The Deep State wants us to believe that he is, because he’s a constant foil for its agenda.--[[User:Geopolitician|Geopolitician]] ([[User talk:Geopolitician|talk]]) 11:34, October 25, 2021 (EDT) | | Putin is not the enemy. The Deep State wants us to believe that he is, because he’s a constant foil for its agenda.--[[User:Geopolitician|Geopolitician]] ([[User talk:Geopolitician|talk]]) 11:34, October 25, 2021 (EDT) |
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| | ::::::::::[[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Free Kyle!]]</sup> 15:42, October 26, 2021 (EDT) | | ::::::::::[[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Free Kyle!]]</sup> 15:42, October 26, 2021 (EDT) |
| | :::::::::::I’m not playing devil’s advocate on anything. I stand by both of the statements that you refer to, as they’re not contradictory. Putin is Putin; his base is his base. Putin himself is willing to work with the West, but for the Deep State’s antics. But his base is much more radical than he is, and much of it would oppose him working with the West, even if the Deep State disappeared for good today. Putin will have to pick a side in the end, and it could cost him a lot either way.--[[User:Geopolitician|Geopolitician]] ([[User talk:Geopolitician|talk]]) 20:05, October 26, 2021 (EDT) | | :::::::::::I’m not playing devil’s advocate on anything. I stand by both of the statements that you refer to, as they’re not contradictory. Putin is Putin; his base is his base. Putin himself is willing to work with the West, but for the Deep State’s antics. But his base is much more radical than he is, and much of it would oppose him working with the West, even if the Deep State disappeared for good today. Putin will have to pick a side in the end, and it could cost him a lot either way.--[[User:Geopolitician|Geopolitician]] ([[User talk:Geopolitician|talk]]) 20:05, October 26, 2021 (EDT) |
| | + | ::::::::::::Oh, he's picked a side for quite some time actually: Communism. Don't believe me? Watch/read these sources: |
| | + | ::::::::::::*Putin’s remarks at communist youth festival in Russia last October - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzkLe-hOvgU |
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| | + | ::::::::::::*Putin: Soviet Collapse a “genuine tragedy” http://www.nbcnews.com/id/7632057/ns/world_news/t/putin-soviet-collapse-genuine-tragedy/#.WjWVNkxFyzk |
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| | + | ::::::::::::*Putin as Castro’s friend: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2689518/Is-sign-return-Cold-War-Putin-cozies-Castro-Cuba-relations-frosty-West.html |
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| | + | ::::::::::::*Putin’s cryptic statement to the Cuban press: http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/transcripts/21138 |
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| | + | ::::::::::::*Putin’s support for communist military power in Africa: http://www.africareview.com/news/Angola-now-biggest-African-buyer-of-Russian-arms/979180-2037576-11bhfeqz/index.html |
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| | + | ::::::::::::*Putin’s criticism of Lenin as strategist: http://www.newsweek.com/russias-putin-accused-lenin-ruining-soviet-union-418519 |
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| | + | ::::::::::::*On the Poisoning of Priests in the Russian Orthodox Church Abroad http://www.portal-credo.ru/site/?act=news&id=52322 |
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| | + | ::::::::::::*Larry King asks Putin about his faith: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0009/08/lkl.00.html |
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| | + | ::::::::::::*Russian tank deal with Nicaragua https://news.usni.org/2016/05/09/opinion-russian-tank-deal-with-nicaragua-back-to-the-future-moment-for-u-s |
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| | + | ::::::::::::*Putin Kept his Party Card and Says he Likes Socialism - https://www.yahoo.com/news/putin-still-communist-party-card-likes-socialist-ideals-183734163.html |
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| | + | ::::::::::::And just because he's shutting down gays or promoting anti-abortion measures doesn't mean he isn't a communist. Let's not forget that even Stalin was all for shutting down gays within the USSR itself, not to mention allowed some anti-abortion laws to pass, and that had less to do with being anti-Communist and more due to having just enough pragmatism to realize going all out on abortion and homosexuality like Lenin did would harm them more than it would doing any good. Heck, even Stalin relaxed any overt persecutions of Christianity during World War II, not because he had any come to Jesus moment, but because, again, he was smart enough to realize promoting the USSR nationalist line, including religion, was ultimately necessary to fight off the Nazis. There's also the no small fact that apparently the ROC got coopted by the Communists after World War II due to Stalin realizing that having direct control over it was far more useful than just wiping it out of existence. The fact that he has repeatedly aided Communist groups and has even admitted in a few interviews that he still likes socialism, even called the USSR's collapse the "greatest geopolitical disaster" should be sufficient proof that he is STILL a communist, an unrepentant one at that. Maybe if he said he's glad the USSR is dead, actually condemned Lenin for his character (not his tactics, but his actual underlying character) as well as Stalin and literally every communist, had issued a mass arrest against the World Youth and Student Conference for being Communists, had literally every communist element removed and the history books only detailing Communism as the demonic idea created by a complete psychopath and followed by psychopaths, and literally hung Lenin's corpse from a lamp post, I'd buy him actually BEING against Communism. Oh, and not only refusing to aid Communists abroad, but if anything giving Russian weapons to explicitly anti-Communist groups to take OUT the Communists, even anti-Communists already in power. All of that would be what I would have done in Putin's position, being hugely anti-Communist. [[User:Pokeria1|Pokeria1]] ([[User talk:Pokeria1|talk]]) 21:49, October 26, 2021 (EDT) |
| | ::::::::The ruse is over. Call it the post-post-Cold War period (or Cold War II). We no longer have to pretend Russia is the boogeyman so as not to alarm the CCP into a military buildup. The CIA, NATO, and [[WTO]] assessments were wrong - China has undergone a military build-up and began an arms race more than 20 years ago already. Our Sputnik moment has arrived. Just as the Manhattan Project was a joint US/UK operation, it's time to think seriously about [https://www.voltairenet.org/article213635.html Putin's proposal for Yalta II.] [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Free Kyle!]]</sup> 12:35, October 26, 2021 (EDT) | | ::::::::The ruse is over. Call it the post-post-Cold War period (or Cold War II). We no longer have to pretend Russia is the boogeyman so as not to alarm the CCP into a military buildup. The CIA, NATO, and [[WTO]] assessments were wrong - China has undergone a military build-up and began an arms race more than 20 years ago already. Our Sputnik moment has arrived. Just as the Manhattan Project was a joint US/UK operation, it's time to think seriously about [https://www.voltairenet.org/article213635.html Putin's proposal for Yalta II.] [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Free Kyle!]]</sup> 12:35, October 26, 2021 (EDT) |
| | <sidenote>Incidentally, we're beginning to see Milley's genius strategic thinking for the Afghan debacle. The US is overflying Pakistan (without permission) with drones to surveil and whatever Afghanistan. This obviously is a test of Chinese missile defense systems, in preparation for Biden's "pivot to Asia", i.e. defense of Taiwan.<end> [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Free Kyle!]]</sup> 12:45, October 26, 2021 (EDT) | | <sidenote>Incidentally, we're beginning to see Milley's genius strategic thinking for the Afghan debacle. The US is overflying Pakistan (without permission) with drones to surveil and whatever Afghanistan. This obviously is a test of Chinese missile defense systems, in preparation for Biden's "pivot to Asia", i.e. defense of Taiwan.<end> [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Free Kyle!]]</sup> 12:45, October 26, 2021 (EDT) |