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| | ::::::::::::That's only because Lenin literally wrecked Russian nationality when he created the USSR by creating artificial states such as the Ukraine for [[identity politics]] purposes. Basically the claims that Africa's countries were merely created by drawing lines on a map willy-nilly, only in Lenin's case this was fully deliberate per his Communist theories. I ultimately want the Ukraine to be fully reabsorbed into Russia, but ONLY after Russia and the others get RID of Communism, since it's not a source of national pride at all, not even with beating back the Nazis, since Stalin MADE that conflict inevitable. Beating back Napoleon if anything made for a far better source of national pride. Besides, Hitler essentially used the same argument for absorbing Austria and the Rhinelands. Are you seriously going to claim German nationalism for Hitler was justified? This is essentially the same argument. [[User:Pokeria1|Pokeria1]] ([[User talk:Pokeria1|talk]]) 07:27, November 4, 2021 (EDT) | | ::::::::::::That's only because Lenin literally wrecked Russian nationality when he created the USSR by creating artificial states such as the Ukraine for [[identity politics]] purposes. Basically the claims that Africa's countries were merely created by drawing lines on a map willy-nilly, only in Lenin's case this was fully deliberate per his Communist theories. I ultimately want the Ukraine to be fully reabsorbed into Russia, but ONLY after Russia and the others get RID of Communism, since it's not a source of national pride at all, not even with beating back the Nazis, since Stalin MADE that conflict inevitable. Beating back Napoleon if anything made for a far better source of national pride. Besides, Hitler essentially used the same argument for absorbing Austria and the Rhinelands. Are you seriously going to claim German nationalism for Hitler was justified? This is essentially the same argument. [[User:Pokeria1|Pokeria1]] ([[User talk:Pokeria1|talk]]) 07:27, November 4, 2021 (EDT) |
| | :::::::::::::Russia has been a union of peoples since czarist times. In fact, there is no singular Russian identity, there are at least three Russias, plus a host of Muslim, Turkic, Tatar, Mongol, Tuvan, Kuban, Buddist, Hindu, Evangelical, Roman Catholic, Greek Orthodox, Slav, Uralic, etc etc etc identities. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Free Kyle!]]</sup> 11:59, November 6, 2021 (EDT) | | :::::::::::::Russia has been a union of peoples since czarist times. In fact, there is no singular Russian identity, there are at least three Russias, plus a host of Muslim, Turkic, Tatar, Mongol, Tuvan, Kuban, Buddist, Hindu, Evangelical, Roman Catholic, Greek Orthodox, Slav, Uralic, etc etc etc identities. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Free Kyle!]]</sup> 11:59, November 6, 2021 (EDT) |
| − | ::::::::Technically, using your argument, there hasn't been any singular national identity for any country, as there have been plenty of regime changes, plus multiple different identities in various countries. Even France had portions that spoke German of all things (like Alsace, and in fact, Alsace actually was considered for extermination precisely because they spoke German and not French) and Robespierre was of Irish descent, not to mention Marie Antoinette was of Austrian origin, not French origin. And using your argument, there's no problem with Hitler gobbling up his neighbors, or France gobbling up its neighbors, or heck, China or Japan gobbling up its neighbors. That excuse is just bullcrap and you know it. Especially not when that World Youth Conference was explicitly a Communist group and he expressed solidarity towards those Communists rather than condemning and having them mass-arrested, not to mention made that comparison between Christian saints with Lenin and the Bible with the Communist Manifesto in a glowing manner. And by siding with Putin, you if anything ARE siding with the Marxists and deep-staters. Heck, Putin's allying himself with China according to [https://www.upi.com/Defense-News/2019/10/04/Putin-Russia-is-helping-China-with-missile-defense-system/6251570208215/ this article]. [[User:Pokeria1|Pokeria1]] ([[User talk:Pokeria1|talk]]) 11:49, November 11, 2021 (EST) | + | ::::::::::::::Technically, using your argument, there hasn't been any singular national identity for any country, as there have been plenty of regime changes, plus multiple different identities in various countries. Even France had portions that spoke German of all things (like Alsace, and in fact, Alsace actually was considered for extermination precisely because they spoke German and not French) and Robespierre was of Irish descent, not to mention Marie Antoinette was of Austrian origin, not French origin. And using your argument, there's no problem with Hitler gobbling up his neighbors, or France gobbling up its neighbors, or heck, China or Japan gobbling up its neighbors. That excuse is just bullcrap and you know it. Especially not when that World Youth Conference was explicitly a Communist group and he expressed solidarity towards those Communists rather than condemning and having them mass-arrested, not to mention made that comparison between Christian saints with Lenin and the Bible with the Communist Manifesto in a glowing manner. And by siding with Putin, you if anything ARE siding with the Marxists and deep-staters. Heck, Putin's allying himself with China according to [https://www.upi.com/Defense-News/2019/10/04/Putin-Russia-is-helping-China-with-missile-defense-system/6251570208215/ this article]. [[User:Pokeria1|Pokeria1]] ([[User talk:Pokeria1|talk]]) 11:49, November 11, 2021 (EST) |
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| | ::::::::The ruse is over. Call it the post-post-Cold War period (or Cold War II). We no longer have to pretend Russia is the boogeyman so as not to alarm the CCP into a military buildup. The CIA, NATO, and [[WTO]] assessments were wrong - China has undergone a military build-up and began an arms race more than 20 years ago already. Our Sputnik moment has arrived. Just as the Manhattan Project was a joint US/UK operation, it's time to think seriously about [https://www.voltairenet.org/article213635.html Putin's proposal for Yalta II.] [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Free Kyle!]]</sup> 12:35, October 26, 2021 (EDT) | | ::::::::The ruse is over. Call it the post-post-Cold War period (or Cold War II). We no longer have to pretend Russia is the boogeyman so as not to alarm the CCP into a military buildup. The CIA, NATO, and [[WTO]] assessments were wrong - China has undergone a military build-up and began an arms race more than 20 years ago already. Our Sputnik moment has arrived. Just as the Manhattan Project was a joint US/UK operation, it's time to think seriously about [https://www.voltairenet.org/article213635.html Putin's proposal for Yalta II.] [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Free Kyle!]]</sup> 12:35, October 26, 2021 (EDT) |