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Talk:Vladimir Putin (view source)
Revision as of 18:49, November 21, 2021
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:::::::::::::Russia has been a union of peoples since czarist times. In fact, there is no singular Russian identity, there are at least three Russias, plus a host of Muslim, Turkic, Tatar, Mongol, Tuvan, Kuban, Buddist, Hindu, Evangelical, Roman Catholic, Greek Orthodox, Slav, Uralic, etc etc etc identities. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Free Kyle!]]</sup> 11:59, November 6, 2021 (EDT)
:::::::::::::Russia has been a union of peoples since czarist times. In fact, there is no singular Russian identity, there are at least three Russias, plus a host of Muslim, Turkic, Tatar, Mongol, Tuvan, Kuban, Buddist, Hindu, Evangelical, Roman Catholic, Greek Orthodox, Slav, Uralic, etc etc etc identities. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Free Kyle!]]</sup> 11:59, November 6, 2021 (EDT)
:::::::::::::According to this video, [https://youtu.be/r3-mtcdO5TI] Stalin's own son did not speak Russian. The meaning of the term "multicultural" in its Russian context is not properly understood in the U.S. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]]</sup> 16:42, November 19, 2021 (EST)
:::::::::::::According to this video, [https://youtu.be/r3-mtcdO5TI] Stalin's own son did not speak Russian. The meaning of the term "multicultural" in its Russian context is not properly understood in the U.S. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]]</sup> 16:42, November 19, 2021 (EST)
::::::::::::::Well, of COURSE Stalin's son didn't speak Russian, Stalin himself was from Georgia (the country, not the state). Not to mention Napoleon technically isn't even a Frenchman he if anything was an Italian, hailing from Sicily. You're going to need to do a LOT more than claim that Russia's nationalism is different from others, because the way I see it, it's not that much different from Germany/Bavaria or France. Heck, there have been no less than nine Frances as well, among other things, so again, using your argument, the very concept of a singular national identity never existed for literally ANY country, even here in the USA, which if anything destroys your whole argument. [[User:Pokeria1|Pokeria1]] ([[User talk:Pokeria1|talk]]) 13:49, November 21, 2021 (EST)
::::::::::::::Technically, using your argument, there hasn't been any singular national identity for any country, as there have been plenty of regime changes, plus multiple different identities in various countries. Even France had portions that spoke German of all things (like Alsace, and in fact, Alsace actually was considered for extermination precisely because they spoke German and not French) and Robespierre was of Irish descent, not to mention Marie Antoinette was of Austrian origin, not French origin. And using your argument, there's no problem with Hitler gobbling up his neighbors, or France gobbling up its neighbors, or heck, China or Japan gobbling up its neighbors. That excuse is just bullcrap and you know it. Especially not when that World Youth Conference was explicitly a Communist group and he expressed solidarity towards those Communists rather than condemning and having them mass-arrested, not to mention made that comparison between Christian saints with Lenin and the Bible with the Communist Manifesto in a glowing manner. And by siding with Putin, you if anything ARE siding with the Marxists and deep-staters. Heck, Putin's allying himself with China according to [https://www.upi.com/Defense-News/2019/10/04/Putin-Russia-is-helping-China-with-missile-defense-system/6251570208215/ this article]. [[User:Pokeria1|Pokeria1]] ([[User talk:Pokeria1|talk]]) 11:49, November 11, 2021 (EST)
::::::::::::::Technically, using your argument, there hasn't been any singular national identity for any country, as there have been plenty of regime changes, plus multiple different identities in various countries. Even France had portions that spoke German of all things (like Alsace, and in fact, Alsace actually was considered for extermination precisely because they spoke German and not French) and Robespierre was of Irish descent, not to mention Marie Antoinette was of Austrian origin, not French origin. And using your argument, there's no problem with Hitler gobbling up his neighbors, or France gobbling up its neighbors, or heck, China or Japan gobbling up its neighbors. That excuse is just bullcrap and you know it. Especially not when that World Youth Conference was explicitly a Communist group and he expressed solidarity towards those Communists rather than condemning and having them mass-arrested, not to mention made that comparison between Christian saints with Lenin and the Bible with the Communist Manifesto in a glowing manner. And by siding with Putin, you if anything ARE siding with the Marxists and deep-staters. Heck, Putin's allying himself with China according to [https://www.upi.com/Defense-News/2019/10/04/Putin-Russia-is-helping-China-with-missile-defense-system/6251570208215/ this article]. [[User:Pokeria1|Pokeria1]] ([[User talk:Pokeria1|talk]]) 11:49, November 11, 2021 (EST)