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: Sevenstring can suggest other examples of deceit comparable to the ones listed.  But the examples he identified are not comparable, because in those cases deceit was not embraced for ideological gain as it was in the listed examples.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 20:13, 28 May 2007 (EDT)
 
: Sevenstring can suggest other examples of deceit comparable to the ones listed.  But the examples he identified are not comparable, because in those cases deceit was not embraced for ideological gain as it was in the listed examples.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 20:13, 28 May 2007 (EDT)
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: P.S. I just rolled back the Tillman example, because that was not deceit for any gain.  It is common practice for the military, dating back to the death of Benny Goodman (?) by friendly fire during WWII, to glorify the victims of war and minimize embarrassment.  JFK's heroism in his PT boat was actually the result of incompetence; Kerry's heroism was questionable also.  There is nothing new about this and the military is not guilty of deceit in the same way as the listed examples.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 20:16, 28 May 2007 (EDT)
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