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User talk:Vince Did 7-14 (view source)
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:Haha, good afternoon. My name isn't actually Vince, it's a reference to paleocon [[Vince Dao]]. No, I haven't read the book in question. What's it about? I'd also like to better understand your first point; why are we turning off undecideds by criticizing neocon/neolib foreign policy? From what I can tell, our main criticism is of interventionism and endless war, which have proven to have horrible repercussions. [[User:Vince Did 7-14|Vince Did 7-14]] <sup>[[talk|Christ Is King!]]</sup> 18:17, February 13, 2022 (EST)
:Haha, good afternoon. My name isn't actually Vince, it's a reference to paleocon [[Vince Dao]]. No, I haven't read the book in question. What's it about? I'd also like to better understand your first point; why are we turning off undecideds by criticizing neocon/neolib foreign policy? From what I can tell, our main criticism is of interventionism and endless war, which have proven to have horrible repercussions. [[User:Vince Did 7-14|Vince Did 7-14]] <sup>[[talk|Christ Is King!]]</sup> 18:17, February 13, 2022 (EST)
:::Wait, so you're not Vince Dao? No joke, no sarcasm, I literally thought you were. Ah, well. I'll continue this conversation anyway.
::::So to clarify my first point, I was arguing that many undecideds see only ideological arguments within paleocon critiques of neocon/neolib foreign policy, and that they are left unpersuaded for precisely that reason. The only things they seem to get out of those critiques are "George Washington wouldn't want this," and "this is not in our national interests, whatever they are."
::::The keys to overcoming this impasse are as follows: (1) State our core national interests, which are to secure our borders and ensure that our neighbors are not controlled by hostile entities; (2) Identify the geopolitical goals of the neocons and neolibs, which by the way are ''not'' "to spread democracy" or "to spread liberalism," but rather the goals set up Brzezinski in his book; and (3) State why neocon/neolib foreign policy interferes with our ability to either protect our borders or keep our neighbors friendly. And as a bonus, it would be preferable to state why neocon/neolib foreign policy is morally objectionable, which by the way it is, for reasons I'll elaborate upon when I explain the "Eurasian Balkans" concept (I'll get to that later tonight; I gotta get back to watching the Super Bowl. Go Bengals!)--[[User:Geopolitician|Geopolitician]] ([[User talk:Geopolitician|talk]]) 21:05, February 13, 2022 (EST)
::Putin uses the 1998 bombing of Belgrade which was not authorized by the UN to bash NATO. So beware; citing this book sets you up as a Putin stooge. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]]</sup> 19:11, February 13, 2022 (EST)
::Putin uses the 1998 bombing of Belgrade which was not authorized by the UN to bash NATO. So beware; citing this book sets you up as a Putin stooge. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]]</sup> 19:11, February 13, 2022 (EST)