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===Trump impeachment===
===Trump impeachment===
{{See also|Trump impeachment}}
{{See also|Trump impeachment}}
====Attempted cover-up: 2019 impeachment allegations====
[[File:Mueller-and-yanu.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Special Counsel Robert Mueller [[colluding]] with Ukrainian President [[Viktor Yanukovych]]. Yanukovych is considered a Putin stooge by many [[Deep State]]rs.]]
Three days before the call, ''The Washington Post'' published an article entitle ''As vice president, Biden said Ukraine should increase gas production. Then his son got a job with a Ukrainian gas company.'' Zelensky is the first to bring up the name of Giuliani, and of an investigation. Trumps mentions "a lot of people are talking about it" and "a lot of people want to know". Trump refers to the Mueller investigation which just ended, and Bill Barr's ongoing investigation into the origins of Russiagate.
The conversation took place the day after Robert Mueller testified to congress. The regime installed by the Obama administration in 2014 was defeated in [[parliamentary]] elections four days earlier. President Trump was calling [[President Zelensky]]y to congratulate him on the victory and map out cooperation fighting corruption and international criminal conspiracies on both sides of the Atlantic.
{{quotebox|'''The President:''' I would like you to do us a favor though because our country has been through a lot and Ukraine knows a lot about it. I would like you to find out what happened with this whole situation with Ukraine, they say [[Crowdstrike]]… I guess you have one of your wealthy people… The server, they say Ukraine has it. There are a lot of things that went on, the whole situation. I think you’re surrounding yourself with some of the same people. I would like to have the Attorney General call you or your people and I would like you to get to the bottom of it. As you saw yesterday, that whole nonsense ended with a very poor performance by a man named [[Robert Mueller]], an incompetent performance, but they say a lot of it started with Ukraine. Whatever you can do, it’s very important that you do it if that’s possible.<br>
'''President Zelenskyy:''' Yes it is very important for me and everything that you just mentioned earlier. For me as a President, it is very important and we are open for any future cooperation. We are ready to open a new page on cooperation in relations between the United States and Ukraine. For that purpose, I just recalled our ambassador from United States and he will be replaced by a very competent and very experienced ambassador who will work hard on making sure that our two nations are getting closer. I would also like and hope to see him having your trust and your confidence and have personal relations with you so we can cooperate even more so. I will personally tell you that one of my assistants spoke with Mr. Giuliani just recently and we are hoping very much that [[Rudy Giuliani|Mr. Giuliani]] will be able to travel to Ukraine and we will meet once he comes to Ukraine. I just wanted to assure you once again that you have nobody but friends around us. I will make sure that I surround myself with the best and most experienced people. I also wanted to tell you that we are friends. We are great friends and you Mr. President have friends in our country so we can continue our strategic partnership. I also plan to surround myself with great people and in addition to that investigation, I guarantee as the President of Ukraine that all the investigations will be done openly and candidly. That I can assure you.<br>
'''The President:''' Good because I heard you had a prosecutor who was very good and he was shut down and that’s really unfair. A lot of people are talking about that, the way they shut your very good prosecutor down and you had some very bad people involved. Mr. Giuliani is a highly respected man. He was the mayor of New York City, a great mayor, and I would like him to call you. I will ask him to call you along with the Attorney General. Rudy very much knows what's happening and he is a very capable guy. If you could speak to him that would be great. The former ambassador from the United States, the woman, was bad news and the people she was dealing with in the Ukraine were bad news so I just want to let you know that. The other thing, There's a lot of talk about Biden's son, that [[Biden]] stopped the prosecution and a lot of people want to find out about that so whatever you can do with the Attorney General would be great. Biden went around bragging that she stopped the prosecution so if you can look into it... It sounds horrible to me. <br>
'''President Zelenskyy:''' I wanted to tell you about the prosecutor. First of all I understand and I'm knowledgeable about the situation. Since we have won the absolute majority in our Parliament, the next prosecutor general will be 100% my person, my candidate, who will be approved by the parliament and will start as a new prosecutor in September. He or she will look into the situation, specifically to the company that you mentioned in this issue. The issue of the investigation of the case is actually the issue of making sure to restore the honesty so we will take care of that and will work on the investigation of the case. On top of that, I would kindly ask you if you have any additional information that you can provide to us, it would be very helpful for the investigation to make sure that we administer justice in our country with regard to the Ambassador to the United States from Ukraine as far I as I recall her name was Ivanovich. It was great that you were the first one who told me that she was a bad ambassador because I agree with you 100%. Her attitude towards me was far from the best as she admired the previous President and she was on his side. She would not accept me as a new President well enough. <br>
'''The President:''' Well, she's going to go through some things. I will have Mr. Giuliani to give you a call and I am also going to have [[William Barr|Attorney General Barr]] call and we will get to the bottom of it. I'm sure you will figure it out. I heard the prosecutor was treated very badly and he was a very fair prosecutor so good luck with everything.}}
The ''New York Post'' called [[Trump-Ukraine]] a lousy sequel to Trump-Russia.<ref>https://nypost.com/2019/09/25/ukraine-transcript-is-like-a-lousy-sequel-to-russia-collusion-controversy/</ref>
====Eric Ciaramella====
The whistleblower alleged “The call [with Ukraine] did not contain anything remotely sensitive from a national security perspective”. A “White House official” is quoted by the whistleblower as objecting to the storage of the MEMCON transcript of President Trump's call with Zelenskyy in a secure storage system in the [[NSC]]. This was wrong (a cover up) because it contained “nothing remotely sensitive”.
The whistleblower's allegation is false. The President's call with Zelenskyy contained references to both President Trump's and the Ukrainian President's opinions on multiple European countries and leaders, especially Germany and France, [[Angela Merkel]] and [[Emmanuel Macron]], as well as sanctions policy towards Russia.
When originally classified, the transcript was set at the SECRET, Original Classification Authority (ORCON), No Foreign Distribution (NOFORN) level. That classification was set because the diplomatic view of the United States and the President towards other countries and leaders can “cause serious damage to national security” if disclosed in an unauthorized way. In this case, it could also damage the national security of Ukraine, too.
James Comey, for example, was referred by the Inspector General to the Department of Justice for potential criminal prosecution because one of his memos contained a tiny amount of similar information: the President's views on the relative importance of two countries (one of which was Russia) and when to return their calls. Comey's content was far milder and only 6 words, but even it was classified at the CONFIDENTIAL level, i.e. would cause “damage to national security”. President Trump's transcript was SECRET because it had far more information and far stronger views about a key US [[foreign policy]], [[Magnitsky Act|Russia sanctions]]. A SECRET classification was clearly warranted, and the call did contain sensitive national security information. The whistleblower and their White House official mole were wrong, or lying when they said the transcript “did not contain anything remotely sensitive”.<ref>https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1177328967105286156.html</ref>
Former [[National Security Adviser]] [[Susan Rice]] confirmed that the Obama administration moved [[President Obama]]'s transcripts of conversations with foreign leaders onto the same top-secret server where the Trump administration stored President Trump's phone calls.<ref>https://thefederalist.com/2019/09/28/susan-rice-obama-put-call-transcripts-on-top-secret-server-too/</ref>
===Russia-Ukraine war===
===Russia-Ukraine war===