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:[[User:TheManInBlue|TheManInBlue]] 22:58, 30 May 2007 (EDT)
 
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::Imagine it's the year 3000 B.C. .... now, to satisfy your morality, what would you propose in a social system to replace jails and prisons with, considering they didn't exist to handle common drunks and thieves in those days?  [[User:RobS|RobS]] 00:01, 31 May 2007 (EDT)
 
::Imagine it's the year 3000 B.C. .... now, to satisfy your morality, what would you propose in a social system to replace jails and prisons with, considering they didn't exist to handle common drunks and thieves in those days?  [[User:RobS|RobS]] 00:01, 31 May 2007 (EDT)
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:::Well, I'm not an allegedly omnipotent and omniscient deity, so I don't feel too ashamed of not being able to whip up a solution off the top of my head.  Besides, it's not like they didn't have other punishments available, from flogging to fines.  The notion of one person owning another is inherently immoral, IMO.
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:::Surely you're not saying that in the absence of prisons, slavery becomes morally defensible.
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:::[[User:TheManInBlue|TheManInBlue]] 22:15, 31 May 2007 (EDT)
    
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==West vs. Islam==
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