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:::Even though there are Christian geologists who use the dates (contradicting the book they profess to believe), the point is that the dates are based on a secular ideology rather than being simple, observable, facts. [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 11:15, 31 May 2007 (EDT)
:::Even though there are Christian geologists who use the dates (contradicting the book they profess to believe), the point is that the dates are based on a secular ideology rather than being simple, observable, facts. [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 11:15, 31 May 2007 (EDT)
::::Do you accept that there can be people who accept Jesus Christ as Lord without those people also rejecting every scientific theory that contradicts [[young Earth creation]]? Many of these models help to understand how God's creation works, whether it was actually created yesterday, 6000 Y.A. or millions of years ago. There's apparently a Creation Wiki for people who can't see past that. --[[User:Scott|Scott]] 18:50, 31 May 2007 (EDT)
::::Do you accept that there can be people who accept Jesus Christ as Lord without those people also rejecting every scientific theory that contradicts [[young Earth creation]]? Many of these models help to understand how God's creation works, whether it was actually created yesterday, 6000 Y.A. or millions of years ago. There's apparently a Creation Wiki for people who can't see past that. --[[User:Scott|Scott]] 18:50, 31 May 2007 (EDT)
:::::I accept that there are many Christians who believe the atheistic origins myth which is contrary to the Bible. I alluded to that in my previous comment. But if a scientific model helps to understand how God's creation works ''regardless of when it was created'', how does it contradict young-Earth creation? That sounds very close to the anti-creationist lie that creationists reject science. And I've yet to see any ideas that contradict young-Earth creation that can justifiably be called a scientific theory. Generally they are just-so stories about the past. [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 22:31, 31 May 2007 (EDT)