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The problem discussed here is irrelevant if you think that, just maybe, the universe might be ''really'' old.  As many sages far more sagacious than I have said, why would "God lie to us"?  He apparently made a ''very'' old universe, from our perspective.  Why are we to argue with the evidence?  He ''expects'' us to figure this stuff out, and dwells in His joy when we do. With every advance, we get closer to knowing the Mind of God - the true goal of philosophy.  [[User:Human|Human]] 23:24, 4 May 2007 (EDT)
 
The problem discussed here is irrelevant if you think that, just maybe, the universe might be ''really'' old.  As many sages far more sagacious than I have said, why would "God lie to us"?  He apparently made a ''very'' old universe, from our perspective.  Why are we to argue with the evidence?  He ''expects'' us to figure this stuff out, and dwells in His joy when we do. With every advance, we get closer to knowing the Mind of God - the true goal of philosophy.  [[User:Human|Human]] 23:24, 4 May 2007 (EDT)
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It's also irrelevant if you believe that God either created the Universe as an operating mechanism - it hit the ground running, if you like - rather than kicking off the Big Bang, or that the creation referred to in the Bible refers only to the Earth (or the Solar System).
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The former would also include the creation of fossils and so forth, and would mean that the Universe was created by God to ''appear'' (to us) to be so many billion years old, but its true age is unknown and unknowable. The Starlight Problem, Carbon-14 levels, etc., are all part of the bluebrint.
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The latter idea, that the Universe existed previously and Genesis refers to the the creation of the Earth, is easier (in some ways), and nothing in the scripture goes against it. In fact, references to "the void" could refer to this region of space in its unpopulated state. Further down, "Let there be light" could be the creation of Sol, and night and day the fixing of the Earth's rotational speed.
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[[User:G7mzh|G7mzh]] 05:55, 1 June 2007 (EDT)
    
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